No, I'm a pragmatist. Guess what? We aready are paying for the health care costs of the uninsured. There was more grant and loan money for college from the Gov't in the 70s and 80s and it seemed to work pretty well. Cooperation between gov't and automakers has worked pretty well in Japan. I find it strange that the far right has been so successful in convincing you that the solution to our problems is to keep doing what we've been doing for the last 8 years. In today's rightwing fringe climate, Reagan and Goldwater would be called liberals. Are the weeds pretty in your neagtive land?