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2011-2012 GSXR Issues

Discussion in 'General' started by kevinnolde, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. kevinnolde

    kevinnolde kandjracingsolutions.com

    Got a New(to me) 600 recently, did the normal things like jump the wires for the clutch safety and kickstand removed the fan and a few other things; FI light and no start, I know it will work if I plug everything back in so what does everyone do? Has anyone been reflashing their bikes with the Woolich system? Does it allow no street safetys and allow for tuning in an easy way as advertised? I thought I had this bike building shit down, this modern mandated safety world is killing me.
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2012
  2. Huey130

    Huey130 Chief wrench thrower

    Put the clutch switch back.
     
  3. kevinnolde

    kevinnolde kandjracingsolutions.com

    Hey Huey,
    OK, why?
     
  4. Biggboi

    Biggboi wera novice #446

    gsxr

    Why did you take the fan off ?
     
  5. kevinnolde

    kevinnolde kandjracingsolutions.com

    More room for air to flow through the radiator without restriction and so I can sell it. Need one?
     
  6. gpz11

    gpz11 Well-Known Member

    Probably because he knows things.

    :D
     
  7. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    I think Huey is referring to the cost/benefit factor. By removing the clutch switch, you cause a host of other problems that in the end outweigh the benefit.

    On my 08 GSXR 600, removing the steering damper locked me into C mode. I ended up cutting the relay out of the stock damper with a dremel and plugging it in.

    If you want to do it all right, just buy the aftermarket Yosh kit. Much easier in the long run.
     
  8. ruckusracing

    ruckusracing Well-Known Member

    Bikes are getting networks just like the auto industry did 10-15 years ago. You have data lines running throughout the system. Because all of the electronics , this bit has to talk to that bit and visa versa.

    I don't know exactly when autos started having networks, but u get my point.
     
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  9. kevinnolde

    kevinnolde kandjracingsolutions.com

    I hear you, I had jumped the wires at the plugs like the old days but odd happenings followed. I remember the factory-pro post about the k5 1000 hp rev ceiling being slightly higher with the clutch interlock switch still installed. So one vote for the Yosh set up, anyone used it in great detail?
     
  10. RM Racing

    RM Racing Tool user

    Yes.

    The clutch switch changes mapping - don't jump it. With the EMPro ("Yosh set up"), this issue goes away.
     
  11. ruckusracing

    ruckusracing Well-Known Member

    Yep, can't just jump stuff anymore. If you know the resistance, you can sometimes wire in a resistor and get by, but that is going out the door as well. There is actual data going back and forth nowadays, so you can't do the resistor trick either
     
  12. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    When you jump the clutch switch it puts the bike into the neutral ignition map which chops a nice chunk of power off the bike. :)
     
  13. backbone

    backbone scarred for life

    I think you can still put a switch on the dash for the clutch switch. That way you can keep it off the bar.
     
  14. Huey130

    Huey130 Chief wrench thrower

    How many races have ever been lost because the clutch switch was damaged versus how many problems were caused by not having a clutch switch?

    When you pull in (and thus engage the clutch switch) the bike goes into a "starty mode" that is stupid (doesn't listen to all sensors) and thus less HP and lower RPM at redline. When you let the clutch out it lets the switch out and the bike gets smart again. Vroom.

    Put the clutch switch back.
     
  15. rd49

    rd49 Well-Known Member

    Best technical description I have seen in a long time. :up::D
     
  16. motojoe_23

    motojoe_23 The Nephew

    Sad that it is likely an attempt to keep squids from floating valves revving the piss out of their bikes with no load
     
  17. backbone

    backbone scarred for life

    I'm thinking endurance racing.

    What is the problem with the switch on the dash? Other than having to remember that it is there and having teammates that aren't afraid to use it in the proper position. :)
     
  18. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    The question is why put it on the dash?

    It's safe enough in the stock spot, it for sure works in the stock spot, it's no work to just leave it.
     
  19. backbone

    backbone scarred for life

    You are thinking SS. We use a different perch on the SBK.
     
  20. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    My bike is wired with the clutch switch to an accessory kill button. Hold button, hit starter, let off button :)
     

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