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Building the ultimate 600cc tarckday bike

Discussion in 'General' started by backdraftmoto, Jan 22, 2005.

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  1. backdraftmoto

    backdraftmoto I make Nissan trucks...

    If someone said they wanted you to build the ultimate 600cc trackbike, what would you build? What brand, mods, parts, tires, brakes, bodywork, etc.? An AMA spec Formula Xtreme bike or maybe a suspersport bike?

    A clean sheet of paper with just one phrase.. 'Ultimate 600cc Trackday Adventure'
     
    backdraftmoto, Jan 22, 2005
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  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Do you want it to do anything other than trackdays?

    From what I've seen the vast majority of trackday specific bikes are old racebikes that are no longer competitive and therefore cheaper than a brand new one. Having the newest best setup 600 for trackdays is a waste of cash.

    That in mind, anything and everything is pretty much wide open and all will work well. Just buy a bike and use whatever is on it.
     
    Mongo, Jan 22, 2005
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  3. mad brad

    mad brad Guest

    05 R6, marchesini wheels. ohlins forks. penske rear.

    superbike motor.

    HOO HAA!!!!
     
    mad brad, Jan 22, 2005
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  4. Yama-saurus

    Yama-saurus Well-Known Member

    fzr400 frame with a raptor660 engine..........:D
     
    Yama-saurus, Jan 22, 2005
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  5. Ex CCS Racer

    Ex CCS Racer Banned

    Any ex-World Supersport 600 with slicks:clap:
     
    Ex CCS Racer, Jan 22, 2005
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  6. dtalbott

    dtalbott Driving somewhere, hauling something.

    :clap: :clap: :clap:

    Add the big bore 770 kit!!!!
     
    dtalbott, Jan 22, 2005
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  7. backdraftmoto

    backdraftmoto I make Nissan trucks...

    Do you want it to do anything other than trackdays?

    The initial project terms were discussed as a bike capable on track or street. I was thinking an AMA based FX motor, pipe, kit ECU, 17" wheels for tire selection, and suzuka style bodywork with working headlight and turn signals. Think of the RC211V that Doohan cruised around on with headlights. But it must run on pump gas, so that will be a limiting factor to how crazy we would get. Maybe a slipper clutch also.

    There are no funds limits, and it will be a new bike with little miles. Brad's got the right idea. The sky is the limit....
     
    backdraftmoto, Jan 22, 2005
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  8. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    That's easy then - call Graves, have Chuck build you a brand new R6 to his specs but keep the compression within the realm of premium pump and be done with it. Tell him you want an old school FUSA 600, he'll understand :D
     
    Mongo, Jan 22, 2005
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  9. bgoodwin

    bgoodwin Half Ass

    Spondon chassis, 700cc 4-valve Rotax, Ohlins, Marchesini.
    Or:
    Ducati Supermono
     
    bgoodwin, Jan 22, 2005
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  10. backdraftmoto

    backdraftmoto I make Nissan trucks...

    If it is chosen to be a GSXR600, then call who.. Chuck Warren @ Arclight or Keith Perry / John Ulrich @ M4 Emgo?

    What about a CBR600RR, then who?

    Or a ZX6R/6RR....?
     
    backdraftmoto, Jan 22, 2005
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  11. backdraftmoto

    backdraftmoto I make Nissan trucks...

    Has to be a 600cc based chassis, buy off the floor. Not a home spun creation.
     
    backdraftmoto, Jan 22, 2005
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  12. bgoodwin

    bgoodwin Half Ass

    How about a Katana, those look really hot.:D
     
    bgoodwin, Jan 22, 2005
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  13. Cliff0529

    Cliff0529 Well-Known Member

    I'd be happy with one of Troy Bakers 72HP 727kits. :D How much HP does the 770 Kit make? :)
     
    Cliff0529, Jan 22, 2005
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  14. dtalbott

    dtalbott Driving somewhere, hauling something.

    Don't know, but I'd like to find out. :D
     
    dtalbott, Jan 22, 2005
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  15. Kris87

    Kris87 Friendly Smartass

    GSXR.....Kevin Hunt

    CBR.....Dan Kyle

    ZX6R....???
     
    Kris87, Jan 22, 2005
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  16. Yama-saurus

    Yama-saurus Well-Known Member

    don't make me build anutha fzr400/tdm850 hybrid !!!!!:D :beer:
     
    Yama-saurus, Jan 22, 2005
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  17. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    GSXR - Chuck Warren, Keith Perry, Barry McMahon, a couple of others that don't want phone calls but they know who they are :D

    Honda - lots of peeps in Kali but I don't know many of them well enough.

    Realistically - they can all build all of the bikes, Chuck was my choice because you can call him and have the entire package done at one place with all the bits made by them and drop shipped to you. There are a shitload of great builders in this country and no best one to choose - they're all good and can all build whatever you want. Ther issue is you deciding what you want first then moving on from there. Also keep Fred Renz on speed dial for Ti bits. He helped Kevin Rentzell get an old school ZX6R ridiculously light. We had to add so much weight one year for the NASB 600 class stuff that it was stupid (like 30 pounds) he originally built it to go chase TZ250's in our F2 class before we shut down Pro Series, amazing bike, probably the sweetest 600 I've ever seen.
     
    Mongo, Jan 22, 2005
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  18. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Oh yeah - ZX6R - Vic Fasola :D


    Power in anything in any format you want - Lee Shierts.

    See what I mean? Too many damned good tuners/builders/craftsmen.
     
    Mongo, Jan 22, 2005
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  19. GixxerBlade

    GixxerBlade Oh geez

    RS125 frame crf450 engine!!!
    SV killa!!!
     
    GixxerBlade, Jan 22, 2005
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  20. Cliff0529

    Cliff0529 Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't the vibrations shake that little frame to death. I imagine if you used an early 90's frame it'd do a little better than than the newer ones. :)

    Darrin, how much can you get an old Raptor motor for? I'm just a front end away from a rolling chassis. :D Everyone on Ebay wants $1500+ for one. :(
     
    Cliff0529, Jan 22, 2005
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