MotoGP | 2024 | Silly Season

I'm only counting Grand Prix victories. I didn't account for Maverick or Alex Marquez. I may have put Binder in the wrong category, though, which would make it seven, not eight. I'm only doing this from memory.

 

8 different winners is looks good until realize 2 of the rider aren’t on a Ducati and have won only 3/19 races. That means Ducati has won 85% of the race… Im just looking at GPs

 

I don't care if there are 16 Ducatis as long as the racing is competitive. And right now, it is. I have seen enough years when we knew from the start that three guys were going to win races.

 

I miss the Hayden/Pedrosa/Honda vs Rossi/Lorenzo/ Yamaha years.

 

Next year will be red vs. white vs. black/yellow vs. light blue Ducatis. I agree that with good racing, I'm happy. However....the rules have the other manufacturers at a disadvantage. Ducati will only expand their advantage. With limited testing days, they are at a significant data collection advantage with 8 bikes turning laps every session. Reap the rewards of filling the grid with bikes when others did not. With the lineup of riders they will have, combined with half on the now proven '23 bike and the factory and Pramac teams on the '24 (whatever that turns out to be), it's not a stretch that they win every race. They are 15/18 so far this year.

 

For GP:
15 Ducati Wins
2 Aprilia
1 Honda

Francesco Bagnaia 6
Jorge Martín 4
Marco Bezzecchi 3
Aleix Espargaró 2
Álex Rins 1
Enea Bastianini 1
Johann Zarco 1

 

In what way? They're the same for everyone. Except when someone gets concessions. I don't know when the last time that Ducati got any, but that sure wasn't recent.

 

A certain vegan milkshake loving kangaroo fucker would like to have a word with you…

 

you forgot bucktoothed, just for completeness..

 

See the next sentence that I wrote???

You don't think having 8 bikes collecting data every session is better than having two or four? Don't get me wrong, they've earned that benefit by supplying more bikes for the grid, but it is still an advantage.

 

You said that the current situation was a result of the rules that put some at a disadvantage. The number of bikes that they supply has nothing to do with the rules. It is a choice made by each constructor. Only the total number of bikes on the grid is capped.

There's nothing that says they can't supply more than they are right now . They made a choice not to. Ducati picked up the slack.

Honda and Yamaha are free to go to Pramac, VR46, Gresini, Tech 3 or RNF, and try to convince them to switch to their bikes. Nothing in the rules can stop that, as far as I know.

 

The rules limit testing... (by team riders)

 

Same for all.

 

I think the point he's making is with limited testing, Ducati have an advantage with that much more data. Versus with much more testing, Ducati probably suddenly sees diminished return - how much more data could they really use when they already have so much? Whereas the other factories probably have a lot more to gain with way more data.

 

Aprilia had two bikes on the grid last year and four bikes this year, yet they are less competitive this year. Throwing a few more bikes on the grid isn't the band-aid that Yamaha wants us to think it is.

 

2015 was the best year for Motogp that I can remember. Still lap records held from bikes in 2015. If I could only watch one year of racing forever, it would be that season.

 

Especially being a Yamaha fan. I will say when Lorenzo was in the zone, he was a machine. I doubt Rossi liked that year.

 

up until to the second to last race

 

But All those guys that say MM93 is the goat, look back at that year... Marc had a great bike, him and 46 battled even Rossi being older. That season should quiet that talk. Yes being a Yamaha fan that year was great, those M1's were great bikes. Jorge is so smooth, but I still think Rossi craft is better. Anyways, it was a great year. I think Stoner and MM93 are so similar with them pushing/sliding the bike forcing it to turn they are the best at that (would have loved to see them battle each other with same bike)..

 

Yea those years are part of my favorite also.