Endurance 2024. Open discussion..

That's what I was eluding to in one of my earlier posts. What makes them successful is the experience as you said, along with having a dedicated crew that isn't dual hatting as racers as well. Every other team is dual hatting as crew guys and riders, and makes it that much more hectic. Not to take anything away from any of the riders, but damn that makes it that much easier on everyone. Crew isn't worried about gearing up and mentally prepping to ride, rider isn't stressed to wrench on the bike, and the crew has more time to hone and refine the bike with chassis adjustments.

So you throw in some top level dedicated riding talent on top of that...like seriously, who gives a shit about the gas tank at that point?

The loud generator is something that affects us all.

 

Depends on track, pace, and rider honestly. Most tracks, with a stock engine and a stock tank, we could mange about 40-48 minutes on a stock tank. With our big tank, 72-76 minutes average. By the time the guys came in with the big tank, they were smoked. When it was super hot, most of them came in early so the endurance tank did not help that much.

There are just so many factors that effect the outcome of an endurance race.

 

We Were Soldiers Once, and Young.

Russell, is this you and me?

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I think this is when you guys were running 1:59 minute stints on an 1100?

 

Stock tank 40-48 mins on a 600? That seems really low.

 

Just thoughts, and some feedback
- LW class in the 2hr, scored separately. Though would need to sort out double scoring when it came to the overall.
- Longer ULW races would be cool. I have thought about shifting some sprints to Saturday morning so you could have a longer ULW race and sprints on Sunday with the standard 4hr race.
- Loved the idea of pushing to 6hr at Pitt, could we shift that +2hr to ULW sometime? Maybe at a cheaper track like RRR
- I noticed a few more solo riders in ULW than other years. Any considerations for an ironbutt class or something like that for people doing the 2hr solo. I think I have seen other endurance orgs do that
- Select rounds maybe HW/MW/LW only or ULW only to accommodate longer races without bigger costs for WERA

Overall though, love the series, love the growth, and looking forward to riding next year!

 

Move LW to the 2 hr or an additional lw class in the 2 hr?

 

Additional class option for LW riders. Meaning they can run in either the 2 or 4.

 

Or going 3 hours on ULW on one or two Saturday morning endurance races...like start at 9am so they're done at noon like normal and that way each race doesn't step on each other's toes. I mean going from 4 to 6 hours is a 1/3rd time increase on the big bike race, so an hour is adding 1/3time to the ULW normally 2 hour event.

My kid did his first 2 hour endurance this year at Summit with MC9...I was on the crew...absolutely loved it.

 

Why?

 

Just another class option.
Might be good for people who want to do it solo. I think it’s worth a shot, if the class doesn’t get interest kill it for 2025

 

Well.. we didn’t run a stock tank for more than 2 races. One was a rain race and the other was Roebling

 

I don't think the speed differential is that crazy if that's what your concerned about, I just see it as an easy transition from people who might be coming from the ccs team challenge series. Just my 2c though as another way to expand participation.

 

Isn't Friday the practice time though? You could also shift qualifying to Friday as either a dedicated session or just take the best times from practice as your qualifying time.
When it comes to someone trying to solo a proposed 3hr, itsn't that on the rider? Certainly a big physical challenge, but we saw Blake solo the 2hr and then run a 2 rider team for the 4hr. If a rider is riding crazy bc their exhausted, wouldn't we just black flag them?

 

Fair points across the board.
Maybe force a min 2 member team for 3hr races