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Coolant system flush

Discussion in 'Tech' started by backho, Jun 23, 2023.

  1. backho

    backho Well-Known Member

    What’s an effective coolant system flush? Vinegar and water? Baking soda? Turbo Lax?
     
  2. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    vinegar... then flush with baking soda/distilled water mix.
     
  3. grapejuiceboys

    grapejuiceboys Well-Known Member

    Is the vinegar supposed to be diluted?

    Seems like an odd choice since vinegar will make anything in the cooling system that's steel, rust.
     
  4. backho

    backho Well-Known Member

    Half distilled water and half white vinegar.
     
  5. Youpaiyou

    Youpaiyou Well-Known Member

    One part Jack Daniels, one part purple cool-aide, and one part formaldehyde used to preserve Hitler's brain that we have in the back.
     
  6. stangmx13

    stangmx13 Well-Known Member

    Vinegar turns rust into a different oxide which is water soluble. So the rust then washes out of the cooling system. There are some steel parts in the cooling system, so it can clean them.

    Vinegar will not react with aluminum oxide. So it may not be that helpful for the aluminum block engine or AL rad.

    There are probably other compounds/residues that get washed away by a vinegar flush. Who knows.
     
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  7. backho

    backho Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your reply!
     
  8. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    What if the rust is mixed with oil from a blown head gasket? I've done at least 5 vinegar flushes and my coolant system is still rusty. MA is insane about this and if your reservoir is the least bit dirty, they'll DQ you. The Dang Yamaha uses steel coolant pipes.
     
  9. Daniel06

    Daniel06 Well-Known Member

    Now, this was on my 97 Chevy 350 cast iron block.

    I replaced all eng cooling system due to rad leak but before replacing I used the Preston radiator flush from advanced auto. I drained, then filled with water and the flush. Let it run for about an hour then let it soak. Did the hour run daily for about a week as the truck wasn't road worthy. Mine stayed in there about a week. The bottle says 6 hours but I think that's more so people don't forget and freeze them in the winter. After I drained, flushed with garden hose til it came out clear. Filled with distilled only. Ran engine to hot, drained, filled with distilled, ran til hot, drained, filled with antifreeze and distilled.

    Maybe the vinegar isn't aggressive enough.
    I got a 26 year old engine pretty darn clean. But it took time.

    Yours is a race bike, so definitely use some caution. But I don't think the off the shelf stuff will hurt it.
     
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  10. stangmx13

    stangmx13 Well-Known Member

    Actual red rust? Vinegar will turn rust black and the flush will turn black too. If the flush isn't black when you are draining it, you arent accomplishing anything unfortunately.

    Replace the res and the coolant pipes? Samco doesnt swap out the steel pipes for silicone?
     
  11. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    It does get blackish, but when I took the engine apart after the last round, the thermostat housing was pretty red.

    The R7 engine has form fitted coolant pipes that come out of the water pump, unfortunately they're steel and no matter what I use, they rust. I've replaced them a few times for this reason.

    I got tired of scrubbing out the reservoir with a specially melted toothbrush (gotta get the right angle) and just got a couple of them from Yamaha. They never come fully clean! New Yamaha ones are cheaper than a Motion Pro.
     
  12. stangmx13

    stangmx13 Well-Known Member

    I figured you'd be on top of things.

    Which water additive are you using and how often are you replacing it? So I know which one sucks at corrosion prevention.
     
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  13. metricdevilmoto

    metricdevilmoto Just forking around

    MA rules say water only.
     
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  14. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    Interesting, I know we always ran water wetter with club and AMA. I wonder if AMA had that rule too, and I just missed it? I know I never had any rust that I recall seeing, and we raced water cooled stuff for 7-8 years.
     
  15. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    My guess is the only steel in the R6 cooling system is the spring on the thermostat!
     
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  16. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    Water pump shaft.
    You guys don't use distilled water?
     
  17. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    Yes we do, and I flush regularly!
     

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