Round 8 - MotoAmerica at the Brickyard

I have also been around a couple riders over the years. Yes they all think they can get ready and race the next day. But in Matthew it sure looks like he knew that he was done for the weekend. Also calling people on here stupid because they have their own opinions makes you an ASS.

 

No; it is just IDing the ill-informed in a some-what kind manner, relative to what could be said.

I've been close to the racing scene to know it happens all the time. Like someone saying he knows ~exactly~ what was going through a rider's mind after a crash.

 

did i say Cam? i meant fong.

that being said.. cam was not riding like cam this weekend but he still won the championship

 

He either dinged himself up In one of the crashes or was points racing to the point that he was off all weekend. Because you're right he didn't look comfortable at all

 

Having an opinion is one thing but speculation that is contradictory to observable facts is not opinion, it is stupid.
Your opinion is that I am an ass an you might be right, but I am calling like it is.

 

I'm ok with hearing everyone's opinion, I just think there is too much of the " I'm right and you're wrong mentality today " and that makes the dissenting person " stupid. So I guess we agree to disagree.

 

A totally uninformed opinion but anyone thought that maybe it was Matt who wanted to get up? I know I would in that situation.

 

maybe because you don't know what he was saying, or what was being said to him..

 

Like I said, it's always easy to Monday morning quaterback, but every bit of medical training I've ever recieved says to leave him in place until the ambulance arrived. What the injured party wants is of no concern as they generally aren't medically trained, and may not be in the best condition to make decisions. And sometimes they are too tough for their own good. From medics to surgeons, no one I've ever trained with would have tried to move him into a Camaro.

I once responded to a vehicle crash scene before an ambulance arrived, no medical kit with me. Thrown from vehicle, lying prone. Conscious with an open airway. He wanted to move. I made him lie still until the ambulance/paramedics arrived.

I don't have the details that were on the ground. But as an outsider looking in, a Camaro would not have been on my list of options.

Edit: if it was just his crash on his own, my decision might be different. But the impact to the lower back (looked like to me) by the other bike changes everything for me and raises my concern for additional injuries. Not saying I'm right, just that my actions would have been different .

 

I think its safe to say the statement "Ken is an ass." is fact.

 

How many times did he fall down? 3?

 

3, but prob went into championship mode to save the season not the weekend

 

Ben there done that. Just get the points and get the bike back to the truck in one piece. The last championship I won in 2016 I didn't even race the last round because I had the points locked. I'm sure he won't have that attitude at Laguna being that is practically home for him. Hopefully he's not too banged up.

 

It`s over, he`s ok, relatively.

But...The "observable" facts were not so at the time.

So IMO, not too big a stretch to suggest let him lay...what would that have hurt? That is normal protocol. Also makes you wonder, did the doc have Xray eyes?

And, yes, everyone has one.

I got ran over a couple years ago, and the EMt`s @ the track couldn`t see anything wrong. Not their fault, no xray..

Turns out my Tibial plateau was sheared off, hanging by my IT band...

 

Okay guys... The dead horse has been repetitively beaten about how the medical folks handled Scholtz. On to the next subject... Laguna. Baggers being flogged through the corkscrew. LOL

 

Should be a show!

 

It's really the only exciting thing because all of the classes pretty much have the championships decided. Too bad the points aren't closer it would make the racing more exciting.