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Harley-Davidson Moves Some Production out of US

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by ekraft84, Jun 25, 2018.

  1. tiggen

    tiggen Things are lookin' up.

    Just finished an article about this in the Spanish press. It said that the facilities in Portugal, Spain, and Italy will not benefit from this move.

    From the artilce you posted:

    "In 2017, Harley sold nearly 40,000 new motorcycles in Europe which accounted for more than 16 percent of the company's sales last year. The revenues from EU countries were second only to the United States."

    Maybe Harley just realized that they've already sold a hog to everybody over the age of 50 in the US and that there are greener pastures in Europe?

    Also,
    Just as funny to me was the tone of the Spanish article and comments: totally anti-Trump AND anti-American. But they can't get enough of dem hogs!! 'MURCA!
     
  2. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Funny, I was in a different thread one minutes ago asking you a related question. :crackup:
     
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  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator


    :crackup:
     
  4. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    Global economy forces global companies to think globally.

    I’m shocked.
     
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  5. tzrider

    tzrider CZrider

    EU being pissy?

    Generally yes but here the EU was retaliating on the 25% tariff on steel.
     
  6. tzrider

    tzrider CZrider

    And achieving the exact opposite of what clown in chief was hoping for.
    I'm also shocked...
     
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  7. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    Didn't they take Obama BailOut $$$$?
     
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  8. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member

    It's kind of like someone throwing a hot brick to you. Ya gotta think fast. :D
     
  9. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Let's wait awhile and see.
    I bet a lot of folks talking tough right now will blink when they realize it isn't going to get them what they want.
     
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  10. assjuice cyrus

    assjuice cyrus Well-Known Member

    What about the steel plant building a new $500 million dollar plant because of the so call clown in chief plans. Sound like its working more then not. Take that jap Davidson and go where ever they want. They are about as American made as Ford and Chevy.
     
  11. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    The prez's tweet on HD was very much on point. HD decided long ago to move its Kansas plant overseas. Blaming tariffs is just a disguise and pure BS.
     
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  12. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    True, but suggesting that it’s still not overwhelmingly made in the USA is also being disingenuous. The power train, tins, rims, seats, fibreglass, plastics are all made in the USA. Even the Dunlop tires.

    When it comes to electronics, batteries, switches and lights etc, it’s over seas. But name me one auto manufacturer who doesn’t do the same.
    Harley is more made in the USA than all of them.
     
  13. plater1

    plater1 former porn star

  14. cpettit

    cpettit Well-Known Member

    I did a little search for how American is Harley but the real answer doesn't seem so easy to find. Loads of arguments on internet forums by people who caim to have inside info but mostly bullshit. I'd imagine some of the startups like Brammo, Alta, Motus, Confederate and Arch might be more American. Probably no real way to tell though.

    http://backintheusa.us/articles2.php?title2=howamericanisharleydavidson
     
  15. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    Wheels are made in Australia.(unless that changed). . Forks Japan... as are brake discs ... it is more likely a 45/55 split of Offshore/US manufacture.. and 85% Assembled in The USA.

    I also read somewhere that 6 in 10 of the big bikes were destined for sale overseas as the market here is saturated.. slumping sales due to disinterested buyers
     
  16. Chino52405

    Chino52405 Well-Known Member

    So, at any time prior to 2016, Trump would have just soaked up an extra 100 million in operating costs for Trump International because the President said it was for the good of everyone? Why should individual businesses be held to that socialist standard?
     
  17. tzrider

    tzrider CZrider

    And steel will still be 25% more expensive.

    Hopefully steel isn't used too much in the economy.....
     
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  18. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Maybe if HD hadn't previously been the beneficiary of import tariffs enacted specifically to benefit their company you'd have a point.
    In light of past assistance, they need to be a team player rather than a fair-weather friend.
    We have no shortage of those.
    And it was really stupid to blame their move on Trump when it was planned long ago.
    I'm not sure who they thought they'd make brownie points with by doing that, certainly not their customer base in the US.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2018
  19. ekraft84

    ekraft84 Registered User

  20. Chino52405

    Chino52405 Well-Known Member

    Or maybe, they are just a business in a waining industry telling you about the truths of the issues they currently face. Maybe their only "team" are their employees and customers and they don't have a political agenda.
     

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