First, this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72g7qmeP1dE And now administration has just sealed the records pertaining to the Border Patrol agent murdered with a weapon included in the Fast And Furious program. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...agent-implicated-fast-and-furious_610783.html Transparency, at it's finest. :up: Obama Administration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gunrunner In early 2011, the operation became controversial when it was revealed that Operation Fast and Furious and other probes under Project Gunrunner had allowed guns to "walk" into the hands of Mexican drug cartels since as early as 2006
That's a different operation. But, nice attempt at deflection. I love it when bad behavior is defended by pointing at other bad behavior. :up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fast_and_Furious Operation Fast and Furious was a sting operation run by the United States via the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Phoenix Field Division between 2009 and 2010. Part of Project Gunrunner, the Southwest Border strategy first implemented it in 2006 to stem the flow of illegal firearms trafficking into Mexico.
unless the info i'm reading is incorrect, it appears they (the ATF) weren't even trying to stop them as early as 2006. the whole point was to let them cross the border and then depend on mexican authorities to track them and see where they ended up. this is probably a better article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal 2006−2007: Operation Wide Receiver and other probes The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into 2007. The ATF was informed of a suspicious gun purchase by licensed dealer Mike Detty in Tucson, Arizona. He was then hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division. With the use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns got to the other side of the border", Detty would sell a total of about 450 guns during the operation. They were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico. At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011, nine people had been charged with making false statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment or delivery of firearms; two of them had pled guilty.
When it's Bush/Cheney bad behavior, it's "Freedom" bad behavior or "Patriot" bad behavior and that makes it all better. Make no mistake, I think one is no better than the other. but this crap is not exclusive to the left or the right.
I'm not saying it's exclusive to one side or the other. What I AM saying is that this is one hell of a mess that the most 'Transparent Administration' is going to great lengths to sweep under the rug. It's a sad commentary on America. :down:
Very true...very sad indeed, that a President who promised this 'transparency in government' to the American people has accepted and/or endorsed efforts by his administration to conceal more than the President he replaced; those who obtain info from the government as part of their jobs (public affairs groups, research tanks, academic organizations, etc.) indicate that the Obama administration is more closed off than the Bush administration ever was. So much for 'change' and the concept of government of the people.
If you want a Republican to compare to consider Nixon when he erased the tapes. Like that this is self serving crap not a policy dispute. All kidding aside my understanding is that during the Bush years they caught the buyers rather than letting the guns go to Mexico
from the article above: Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix field division. It began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months. The probe ultimately involved over 200 guns, a dozen of which were lost in Mexico. On September 27, 2007, ATF agents saw the original suspects buying weapons at the same store and followed them toward the Mexican border. The ATF informed the Mexican government when the suspects successfully crossed the border, but Mexican law enforcement were unable to track them.
5,4,3,2,1....Race Card 5,4,3,2,1....Race Card. I guess Holder is coming up short on lies he can tell to cover his and Obama's behinds... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...y-justice-department-actions/?test=latestnews
