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MotoAmerica / Road America 2020 Round 2

Discussion in 'General' started by grasshopper, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. Suzuka_joe

    Suzuka_joe Well-Known Member

    why are we still on this subject? lets talk about the heritage cup, its just for show right?
     
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  2. grasshopper

    grasshopper Well-Known Member

    I'd like to see an entry list for that and what machines they are on.
     
  3. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    I’m good with anything as long as it keeps the topic of conversation away from the twins cup.
     
  4. Senna

    Senna Well-Known Member

    Sounds like Stefano is selling off his ZX-10 and stepping down to a 600 instead.
     
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  5. grasshopper

    grasshopper Well-Known Member

    Entry list looks solid :)

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  6. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    My memory is a little fuzzy but I know Attack ran into some issues with a R7 frame with R1 motor in it. Then I think Graves was allowed to run a R7/R1 the following season or two. I know Yamaha wasn’t happy about some of the rule changes etc. iirc.
     
  7. G 97

    G 97 Garth

  8. rafa

    rafa Well-Known Member

    I was about to say the same thing.

    Mesa already putting his ZX10R for sale. Too bad.
     
  9. rafa

    rafa Well-Known Member

    Im not sure, I thought the same think about him in 600 last year. Wasnt he case, cant say this would happen on Stock 1000
     
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  10. grasshopper

    grasshopper Well-Known Member

    Maybe Mesa should ask Jacobsen to swap bikes next weekend at Road America. That would be epic if they actually did that and PJ still won. LOL
     
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  11. knedragon29

    knedragon29 Well-Known Member

    that might be a 2nd bike , its an 18 that's for sale. I doubt he's chasing contingency with that. Just a guess.
     
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  12. stk0308

    stk0308 Well-Known Member

    That was, essentially, what I remember too. As I recall, the technicality was putting the R1 motor in an entire R7 frame was deemed against the rules. So they had to cut up the frames, and get enough of an R1 frame grafted to the R7 to make it meet the intention of the rules.
     
  13. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    Nobody cared about the R7 in a stock class because it was a slow POS in stock form. Likely would have gotten its ass kicked by stock 600s.
     
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  14. redtailracing

    redtailracing gone tuna fishin'

    I think there's a few contributing factors to this:
    1. I think the competition on the 600s was thicker last year than this year.
    2. I think he struggled to adjust to the riding styles of racers here. He even said as much in his own rather arrogant way and I believe him.
    3. If I remember correctly, he had at least two mechanical DNFs last year right? That's a pretty big contributing factor in the championship considering I don't remember the other top riders having any.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm actually not a huge fan of his. I think he came off as quite whiny and a sore loser a few times last year. But you can't argue he's an amazing rider. Keep in mind he dropped almost 2 additional seconds off his laptimes in superbike from what he did in stock1000. Cam Petersen made similar improvements by the end of the weekend but PJ was still 2 seconds/lap faster after it was all said and done. The Duc is not 2 seconds faster than the next fastest bike on that grid. For reference, Mesa trapped a higher speed in the stock1000 race than PJ and PJ's trap was 2mph higher in sundays superbike race than Mesa's speed on saturday.
     
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  15. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    Competition in 600 class is more stiff than it is in the 1000 class IMO.
     
  16. Senna

    Senna Well-Known Member

    You talking this year and Stock 1000 vs 600?
     
  17. humblepie

    humblepie Well-Known Member

    If you are speaking of PJ, he had no mechanical DNF's last season. Crashed out of Race 1 at Elkhart was his only no points race. My opinion, he just got beat last year. Wasn't ready to race to win first couple of weekends. And Fong was ready all year.
     
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  18. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    He was talking last year, regarding PJ and the 600 class. There was more competition last year in the 600 class versus this year in either class, IMO.

    Yea he probably figured he would roll through the 600 class last year like he is in the 1000STK class. I actually thought he was going to win the 600 class last year too.
     
  19. JCP636

    JCP636 Well-Known Member

  20. lee955i

    lee955i The Traveling Gnome

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