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2020 Honda Fireblade | CBR1000RRRRRR

Discussion in 'General' started by Steeltoe, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    You can tell by tensioner which way they spin. Bottom gear is double with inner ones pinned by crank gear.
     
  2. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    Too big to be supply. Just drain for top end.
     
  3. rice r0cket

    rice r0cket Well-Known Member

    So 215hp is w/o variable valve tech? Looks like they made it more oversquare too, so it'll be interesting to see if it's just a screamer and a total dog in the midrange.
     
  4. humblepie

    humblepie Well-Known Member

    The second gear drives the balancer, which appears to have been moved beneath the crank
     
  5. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    The duration on those cams is impressive. Obscene even.

    Short lift/long duration = High RPM power. Some sacrifice on the low end.
     
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  6. humblepie

    humblepie Well-Known Member

    If it was a drain, it wouldn't have a seal on the end of the crank
     
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  7. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    Maybe it is there as part of galley, to direct oil straight down in to pan. There is another one on other side as well.
     
  8. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    Isn't that crank itself, not balancer?
     
  9. humblepie

    humblepie Well-Known Member

    Help me understand why Honda would employ a jackshaft (that's what it would need to reverse direction) because it wanted to rotate the cams in the opposite direction of crank rotation? Just the jackshaft itself will penalize the design several percent right off the top. Doesn't make alot of sense, does it? Help me understand.
     
  10. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    I have no clue why honda does anything. I am just looking at picture. If you look where cam gear is it looks too close to cylinder surface so crank would be under it. Compare it to other side for distance.
     
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  11. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    Honda names it "semi-cam gear train".
    I suppose shorter cam chain - > "safer" at peak rpm (less slack) , 14.500 in stock trim.

    We'll have to wait for a technical article.
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2019
  12. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    This, too, but looking at the position of the cam chain tensioner should leave no doubt.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  13. gixxerboy55

    gixxerboy55 Well-Known Member

    Looks like it gained some weight. The cams look serious, that's the advantage of the finger followers.
     
  14. humblepie

    humblepie Well-Known Member

    Looks like the cams could be geared together by the circular thing located between them. Top end safety feature?
     
  15. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    Now that we sorted the rotation direction, we move on to cam chain length :crackup:

    How can it possibly be longer since it's driven by a gear that sits above the cranckshaft? It doesn't make sense.
     
  16. humblepie

    humblepie Well-Known Member

    Yep, you are right! AND, the cams spin in reverse! But tell me why?
    Why is there oil pressure being fed to that gear? I think I know, but really shouldn't say.
     
  17. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    Then don't, I couldn't care less :crackup:
     
  18. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    Or variable cam timing
     
  19. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    Taller head
     
  20. He showed up about 70 seconds after Marquez got there. :D
     
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