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Is God all knowing, or not? And I'm not a devout atheist. More of a lackadaisical agnostic.

 

Probably. However, I still have a different POV regarding the free will thing which I mentioned several pages back.

 

The answer is he's all knowing when shit is going great. Thank him for everything.

When everything goes to shit it's free will and your choices but you still have to thank him for everything.

 

Is there a difference between knowing the future and predicting it with 100% accuracy?

Not even someone who can create the world in six days?

You guys realize what's going on here, right? You're essentially saying "he doesn't exist because no one can do this." What I'm saying is "if he does exist, it's entirely conceivable that he can do that." There are lots of logic flaws in all those stories people are fed in holy books. I'm not sure this is one of them.

 

Because God exists outside of time, there is no future for him to predict. He knows, absolutely and completely, the total path of your life. He always has. That is the very definition of omniscience.

 

Are you saying that what's going to happen also has already happened? That the only way I can see any validity in the argument that there is nothing to predict.

 

Yes, guessing correctly and knowing are two very different things...

I'm conceding for the sake of this argument that he exists and is omniscient... I'm not disagreeing with either of those claims... What I'm disagreeing with is the possibility of the existence of free will if those things are true.

 

Meh...if the universe were WD40, earth is probably WD10. He cares, but he's got better things going.

 

If god knows all then yes, it's "already" happened for him... If he's outside of time everything is always happening, it just depends "when" he wants to look

 

And when, by his definition would be????

 

This is probably a more realistic take on God, although it requires us to discount his omniscience or consider him to be rather callous.

 

When is only relevant to us in this discussion, he could look "whenever" he wanted in time, as it would all be simultaneous to him.

 

Again, callous is based on perspective. No matter how broad our experiences may be, or how brilliant we think we are, our experiences and knowledge are insignificant to a supreme being/creator/alien traveler. Arguing limits on something that is not limited is entertaining, but pointless.

 

I don't recall it describing limits on Jaweh.

 

From your, and my perspective.