The Earth is how old???

RNA from the mother is traceable if memory serves me.

 

We also know that on the 8th day he hid dinosaur bones in the ground.

 

I believe in the 6000-10,000 year time frame, because I choose to believe in the bible. Others may choose not to if they wish, I will NOT think less of you, or mock you.

I also believe there are stars Billions of light years away in distance, thus making it seem like creation would have to be billions of years old.

But because I also believe what the bible says, over 14 different times it says it, at one point during creation, the stars were much closer to us than they are now, and then God pushed them farther back.

Thus the rationale I use to believe in a young creation, but at the same time with stars billions of light years away. I cannot explain how it happened scientifically, nor can anyone else.

But when the bible states numerous times that God stretched out the heavens and pushed back the stars, with his right hand, either that's exactly what happened or its mumbo jumbo. I choose to believe, that's what happened.

Thus we are but a few 1000 years old, and there are stars billions of light years in distance from us. According to how I see it.

 

I will not think less of you for believing in a diety.

But you're quite wrong in regards to a scientific explanation about as to why the stars are so far away.

 

Isn't religion just really a way to justify horrible things, and keep power. Basically saying it is God's wish. Now we kill all these non believers?

 

That and make a crap load of money.

 

So when that book says it rained for forty days and forty nights, it must have rained for a while longer....

Sorry but consistency isn't that book's greatest forte.

 

If i got payed for everytime I said praise Jesus, id.... Well I would not be quite into a crap load.


I was born into a Mormon family. I stopped going to church when I turned 18, and this is what I told my parents.


If someone is born into something, only being taught one thing. They are going to believe it is true. Just as If a redneck was raised to hate blacks. They will most likely be rascist.

Now, If you are raisied in one church, of course you are going to think it is true. In your important developeing years, you were drilled with this one piece of information. Your church is true, others are not, or dont have the full truth in the case of Mormons.

What makes them wrong? What makes one church right? Who says their is a god?


If I have a son and raise him, telling him the Earth is 6000 years. He will believe it. When he learned in school that is false, I would then frown upon him for not believing the same way I do. So, in turn he would think school is teaching him false things.


Basically what I'm getting at is if someone is soooo deep in this 6000 year old thing, you will not change their thinking. No matter how many facts you throw at them. Oh yeah, like carbon dating...



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I love the whole dinosaur thing as well. Dont you think if if flying lizards were going around eating peaple SOMEONE would have wrote that down in the bible !!!

 

Doubtful, because the same thing that made dinosaurs so massive would have made humans just as equally massive. Would be no different than how reptiles and birds are to us today. Science, it's a wonderful thing.

 

I was once scared of the boogie man in the closet ....

 

Which explains my huge... bed.


Dinosaur bones were put in the ground by the easter doggy for us to find!

 

Paradox?

 

yeah, i kind of agree with that, but the bible says one day is sun up...sun down. So that is translated to be a 24 hour period.

Trust me... I have heard them make some of this argument before, though not in a direct conversation with me. Her take- The bible in the Genesis description is the literal truth. 1 creation day = 1 current 24 day

 

Actually what you are saying is the Bible is wrong as to the explanation as to why the stars are so far away.

I cant argue it, I simply to chose to believe it, because thats what the binble says. For those that do not wish to believe what the bible says about the stars, cool. My fate is what I make. I can only be blamed for my self. :up:

But here, based soley on the bible is a few verses as to why I can rationaly believe that the stars were once a lot closer than they are now. I AM NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE but simply explain why I can believe this because I chose to believe what the bible says.

Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; Isaiah 42:5

Note: If you are God, and you created the heavens, then after the fact stretched out the heavens, what did you just do to the heavens by stretching them out? My only conclsuion is you made it bigger than what it originally was.

I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, [even] with my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Isaiah 45:12


Note: What are hosts commanded? I would guess the stars.

Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens:
Isaiah 48:13

And forgettest the LORD thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; Isaiah 51:13

He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.
Jeremiah 10:12

He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.
Jeremiah 51:15

Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.Job 9:8


Note; The above verse states he spreadeth out the heavens. Sounds to me like he made it bigger from the poriginal size.

Who coverest [thyself] with light as [with] a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:Psalms 104:2

Note; this verse states God stretched out the heavens similar to opening a tent curtain. Think about the process of opening a curtain.

The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zechariah 12:1

I could post a bunch more, but whats the point? I am convinced. What others chose to believe is their business. Again, I am only trying to point out why I believe what I believe. Nothing more. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

 

only in Islam...

 

Come on, clue me in what you learned from reading some book you got in your freshmen year of college that is going to convince me that there is some actual importance on how old the earth is? Are they going to cure nut cancer by proving a rock is 60 Bazillion years old versus 60,000 or even last week? Is peace in the middle east going to break out by proving that some grain of sand is older than the dinosaurs? Come on, help me understand what a scientist is going to do by proving that a lump of coal was "made" in the year eleventy million BC versus the first indo china war.

Hippy hawg wash for the modern socialist.

 

This is partly my point. This couple wasn't raised to believe this. THey came to this belief in their adulthood.

Like I said before, I believe in God, but I do not think that the 7 days of creation in Genesis equals 7 modern 24 hour days.

 

Then according to my friends you are still wrong. 6,000 is the max age according to the Bible, as it was explained to me. Even 10,000 years old is not possible.

 

Isn't Judaism and Islam older than this supposed age of the Earth?