Who here owns a Tesla?

Kinda what I was thinking, have my retired mom 'buy it'.

 

Anyone remember " cash for clunkers "

The days of selling your used car by the road and someone rolling by and paying cash are gone forever.

Capitalism works great if the politicians could just leave it alone.

 

Currently there is a Tax Credit for EV's....the $7500 for new EV has been around for a while. More recently there is a credit for Used EV's of $4,000. The used ones have more conditions...cant be more than $25k,buy form dealer and more importantly is the income limit...single person its like have an AGI no more than~85K, head of household its like $112K

 

Equality for all...wait, no, not for them!!!! Only for me!

 

Considering taxes on fuel in Illinois are .47 a gallon and assuming your gas powered vehicle gets 25mpg that $100.00 would only cover the driving for 5320 miles a year. I'm willing to be that EV's get driven way more miles than that on average.

 

I am currently getting 4.7 miles per kwhr on my commute which is half free way and half county roads.

Assuming you only get 4 miles/kwhr you would use 30kwhr per day. At .$14 a kwhr your daily commute would be $4.2 which would come to be $84 a month in energy.

Granted there are a lot of factors that go into that as well. If you have more questions, I'll gladly answer them.

 

Please don't tell me you are about to make the "I am buying a car to save money on fuel." argument.

 

A buddy of mine recently did just that. He's not a "numbers guy" so when this Engineer ran the figures he gave me one of those "WTF did I just do?!" looks. His truck was getting ~20mpg; not good enough for him. So he bought a Mazda 6 for about $35K and now gets about 30mpg. Let's just say the "payoff" is gonna take a while and that he's not happy.

 

If you look at a gallon of gas (or diesel) and take all the state and fed money off of it...then factor in everything required to get it to your pump.......it's EXTREMELY cheap.

Go price a gallon of steam vapor distilled water at Kroger.

In some states you'll find the water is MORE expensive than the gasoline.

Everone hates the big bad oil companies because their political fuckheads told them it's trendy.

 

Good thing this trucks are rare, 13 hours
https://www.kcra.com/article/placer-county-big-rig-fire-crash-interstate-80-emigrant-gap/61912862

 

I'd imagine Tesla has an absolute massive legal team

 

At least it’s not carbon emissions from that lithium fire.

 

I assure you plenty of diesel trucks have caught fire and have damn near burned down entire truck stops due to the emission systems that get so hot during the regen process they start melting shit...

Donner pass is a bitch of a place for that to happen tho.

 

Replacing them with electric ones should fix that problem

 

Yeah...cause all that heat of the current flowing to those electric motors under extreme load won't ever ignite.

 

I didn't read all the comments but lease deals on EV's these days are INSANELY cheap. The EV market has cooled evidently, we are considering a Hyundai Ionic 5 or Kia EV6. Just started researching but around $1500 down then like $180-250/month for 24 months. We'd save about $100/month in gas so figure $80/150 month payment for a brand new 50K car. New Chevy Blazer/Honda Prologue are also cheap, around $300/month. Usually 10K miles a year lease, 300 mile range on a charge. Leasehackr.com is a good resource also.

 

That's because some of the sheep have finally woken up to the bullshit and got a dose of reality.

 

“ The early adopter market has been saturated”

 

The market of inexpensive, no frills, short range vehicles is untapped and waiting. Something for the daily errands, the drive to school or work and back. etc.
The local city market is where EVs could shine, if priced well and no gubmint interference. There are tons of Chinese options for this, but we need a domestic version.