When you pry my cold, dead fingers from my..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station


oo and look what it uses for cooling water.

 

Interesting idea for Japan.

Yes we need nuclear power plants. We need to start building now and not stop. At the same time we need to trash the wind and solar stuff being built and use the funding for nuclear power. This green energy crap is a huge waste of money and an ugly waste of land for the most part.

Exactly. People need to get educated now on nuclear power. Electric cars are a joke since they are really coal powered. Until we embrace nuclear power and get a majority of power from it the idea of an electric vehicle is stupid at best.

Yes the French use this technology. And have been since the 70's and they get a vast majority of their power from nuclear power plants. Not sure what you are trying to say. Stupidity in the US stopping us from building nuclear power plants has nothing to do with the technology that is out there and being used. If anything we could do it better if we tried.

I too am talking about the radio active waste. If we recycled the current waste we have in storage it would be enough to run the entire country for over 10 years. What do you mean there is no good solution to energy? Nuclear power is the best solution by far and really isn't nearly as bad for the environment as you have been led to believe.

 

New plant coming to Florida:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/22/2558341/reactor-approval-clears-path-for.html

 

^I wouldn't hold my breath until it's up and running.


So after reading up on US energy policy and the recycling technology available, until changes are made in US's handling of the matter I think nuclear power is not a safer alternative to current power plants. Until the US supports some sort of recycling technology or federally sponsored waste disposal site nuclear power has as many drawbacks as fossil fuel.

 

I certainly hope you do not mean something like Yucca Mountain where 49 states get to dump all of their garbage onto the 50th state by force.

That isn't cool.

 

If you dropped it in Noo Joizee, would anyone notice?

 

There are a lot of issues with nuclear waste disposal.

What's better, one big pile of it or lots of little ones? :P

Either way nulcear power in it's current form in the US is not the end all be all of energy.

 

It's all about return for the almighty dollar. The technology of "recycling" spent power plant fuel isn't new tech it just hasn't been the best way to go financially up to this point. #2 brings up a good point on why it isn't and that is we haven't built new plants and haven't made any major strides in plant technology other than with instrumentation.

The US needs to get past the old way of doing business with regards to nuke plant construction. Stop bidding out the design and construction as one job. We need to decide on one design then build every plant to that design and stop reinventing the wheel every few months. Make the components interchangeable to simplify maintanence and refueling and in turn drastically cut costs. It's rediculous to only build a couple of plants alike and many times the sister plants aren't even interchangeable.

 

Everyone would notice, Minneshithole on the other hand........

 

You assholes would try and make a tourist attraction out of it.

"Come to Joizee! Come tan at our Great Nuke Wasteland, get that green and orange tinge just like Snookie! Hey, did you know Jon Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen are from here? Do you need any more reason to hate us?"

 

The only problem with Yukka Mountain was that contractors doing the studies were given massive amounts of funding and not monitored. It became a HUGE cash cow for decades. Way too many people(high dollar people) were allowed to ride that gravy train for too long and Obama cut the funding so they were all laid off and I agree with that decision. Now they've got ORISE and ORAU taking a look at the science so it's not a completely dead issue.

The WIPP facility is another interesting burial site.

The radioactive material came out of the ground all the government is doing is trying to put it back into the ground. Similar to the asbestos disposal.

We didn't create Uranium just reconcentrated it.

 

So just how much demand will the new all electric vehicles add to the grid?


Went to the Biltmore House yesterday to do the Christmas tour. They have a display of Tiffany lamps on the property. I tried to imagine them with compacts or LEDs.

 

Do you mean the current way of doing things that is decades old or do you mean using actual current technology? As far as disposal goes push comes to shove load that shit on a rocket and launch that shit at the sun.

Wait you mean like mass production? Nah that makes entirely too much sense.

 

I think nuclear power is a wonderful technology, but... I think capital should be deployed in the most efficient manner possible. The political and financial risk inherent in building nuclear plants is much too high for private investors. I'd like to see government subsidies eliminated for all forms of energy production, and allow the market to work unimpeded. Right now, it's much more efficient to build plants powered by natural gas and coal. America has the largest energy reserves in the world, we'd be foolish not to use it.

Solar and wind are fucking jokes that can't survive without government mandates, subsidies, and outright theft from sensible means of power production. They have their place, but the push for them is politically motivated, nothing more.

 

Nuclear power is the most over regulated industry in history. The true cost has been multiplied many times due to this. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of deregulating nuclear power....but somehow sanity needs to be introduced. 8 billion for a 1300 Mwe plant is way too much. At that cost it can't compete with natural gas. My estimate is 'bout half of that 8 gigabucks is due to interest and delays caused just by the extended period of time needed to site and build the plant.

 

I thought the same thing when congress chased after steroid use by pro athletes.

 

Sorry for the tardiness, but there's no issue with Hg at all.

I personally ran the numbers pulling data from several sources. My conclusion: Assuming 0% recycling and 100% release of Hg to the atmosphere at the end of CFL life (i.e., you go bust it out in the middle of the street), there will be a net 30% decrease in environmental Hg than when using incandescent lighting.

Reason is simple... 50% of U.S. power is produced by coal. Burning coal releases Hg - a lot of it. Use of CFL means you're burning less coal. The amount of Hg you didn't release when you didn't burn that coal is greater than the Hg used in the CFL.

 

What's worse? Burning coal for energy or the mercury in the millions of light bulbs that we all know will wind up in landfills despite being illegal to put them there?

 

Answered in my post. 30% less Hg assuming ZERO CFL recycling (i.e., 100% of CFL end up in landfills or deliberately destroyed to release Hg).

 

I would be interested in looking at your source (not doubting just interested) A lot would depend on the amount of electricity assumed saved, then you need to factor in the percentage of generation that is coal. In my experience the people with an agenda usually calculate a very rosy scenario.