Used EV’s selling quicker than used gas cars

It is a GLOBAL commodity. There are no export restrictions on US produced oil, so any oil any private company in the US produces is freely sold internationally. The only thing relying on oil does is make us subject to price swings based on turmoil in more tumultuous places. We would have to produce three times as much domestically just to equal OPEC's output and have an equal chance at controlling the market.

Thinking that continued reliance on a product whose price is controlled by a foreign cartel is the nationalistic or patriotic thing is truly nutty. How many wars have we fought over oil in the last 100 years? We are gearing up for another preemptive invasion as I type. Imagine a world where we produce an abundance of nearly free renewables at home and are truly energy independent from energy commodity swings. THAT is a real America First future, but so many seem more tied to hating EVs and worshiping oil execs than imagining a better future.

 

We already had war over lithium, imagine if every car runs on batteries.

 

1. Cars are not instantly inoperable without new lithium. The only thing a conflict in a lithium producing country would cause is a slight rise in car prices over time if it persists instead of a market freakout everytime OPEC doesn't see it's shadow.
2. Many far less conflict prone countries produce lithium than the few oil rich countries we rely on today. The chance of a real shock is far lower.

 

YES

 

I’ll go with my actual lived experience vs your keyboard dipshit links. Data and studies cited don’t help people make a living. Jobs do. And while yes. Once a well starts pumping the work drops. Guess what? There’s the next well to drill. There are all kinds of support jobs to the surrounding area that your “data” probably omits.

My parents lived on the last block on the east end of town when I lived there. Past their street was a field. Now 30 years and two oil booms later, there are maybe over 100 houses east of their home. That is 100 homes people in the Trades built and got paid for building. They used that income to buy homes and feed families to feed families of their own.

Thats not data. That is reality in ND SD TX WY MT and OK.

 

It’s quite obvious the lack of oxygen in the air up in Commierado has contributed to the atrophy of Captain Battery’s gray matter.

I bet his mom is sick of hearing him scream at the walls and beating his fists over the refusal of cognitively functional persons to accept the brilliance afforded by his Google U report card.

 

I’m just being perfectly honest here, I’ve read like the first 7 pages thus and yall electric owners suck at debating.

pull your dicks out and own the fact that yall bought that shit. Yall argue like Old People fuck and it’s annoying.

the only thing that matters is how many bitches can your ride pull.

how many hot women out there driving electric cars? Now do that ratio of 300lb blue hairs, you know, data that actually matters.

News flash, women LIKE Stopping at gas stations to get snacks, not to charge your man-pussy.

the thing about electric car owners is they never seem proud. Just always justifying their purchase like “I get xxxx mpg with 373747 amp hours charge rate at fucking, just shut the fuck up already nerd.

it’s your money, you spend it how you want. But stop propping them up with false promises and bullshit.

I’ve really been working a lot on problem solving and breaking things down to basics. A lot more shit gets done that way.

so basically speaking, 99% of your vaginal wheels are still reliant on oil. So go plug into your asses. Side I promise your shit stinks like the rest of ours.

 

Robby-Bobby 2028!

 

Ok wait, I kinda like the Cyber Truck.

but I also drive several El Camino, love the looks of a Box Van. My buddy got one the other day and it did a little light show. The kids loved it. Was the coolest thing ever till we rode home and people spent like $500 on Christmas lights and that was the best thing ever.

so I’m not sure, definitely wouldn’t buy a Cyber but I could certainly douche myself into one for fun!

 

If you want stainless steel and cool, find a DeLorean.

Stainless and ghey. Cybertruck.

 

lol man, an LS swapped DMC would be sweet!

fun fact, McGuire’s Irish pub in Pensacola has an original dealer sign hanging up. Never for sale, but random shit ending up in Pensacola.

 

You'd have to do so if you ever expect it to move more that 500 feet at a time.

 

Before I retired, large cap oil and gas companies were my clients. The XOM, COP, CVX,etc, parking lots are full of EVs

there is no one in this thread that isn’t a big user and big beneficiary of fossil fuels. Even if everyone drove EVs, there would still be massive demand. You can’t live without them. You couldn’t post on this thread without them.

would love to see the Greta’s of the world try to live a week without using fossil fuels, or products made from them. Walking the walk is a lot different than talking the talk.

that said, EVs are awesome to drive on the streets. Far superior for trips less than 125 miles or so from home IMO, which is probably 99%+ of trips made. Love mine

 

Pretty sure your refining statement is false. From listening to people in the industry there are different grades of crude. Some are vastly easier to refine than others. You can even see this if you surf to a site that shows commodity futures. There are different names for different grades, most are related to the local they come from as far as I can tell.

 

Light crude is the easiest to refine into fuel and what the U.S. predominately produces. Unfortunately a lot of refineries aren’t set up to run it and need to blend in heavier crudes from the Middle East, Canada and Latin America.

you need heavy crude to
Produce asphalt and other products.

what cu260r6 is missing is that U.S. producers are the most careful and environmentally friendly producers in the world. The majors rarely flare gas anymore and are very careful in how they drill. The Russians, middle eastern, and other producers don’t give a shit, and are massive polluters. But that’s where he wants us to get oil. Ironic.

 

There was an episode of Roadworthy Rescues that did an LS swap on a DeLorean.

 

It’s not ironic. It’s ignorance coupled with uninformed blind faith in a blatantly dishonest ideology.

He’s the white suburban housewife of the beeb.

 

Is that better or worse than a "Karen"?!?!?

Or maybe same same?

 

Dammit!!! You just established some credibility. Stop that shit.

 

It is pretty nuts to claim any fossil fuel extraction is environmental. That is like being the most ethical executioner operating the gas chambers.

Yes, there are different grades for different purposes, but that is irrelevant to the point. It is a global commodity and the price is set by a foreign cartel. Any production we subsidize here only costs US taxpayers and does not reduce the global price more than a few cents if that.

Anecdotes are not evidence.