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Unsafe racetracks in America

Discussion in 'General' started by Putter, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. TheGrouch

    TheGrouch Well-Known Member

    Dangerous for riders or spectators? I've seen bikes land on the spectator side of the T4 fence at Blackhawk a couple times.
     
  2. forceten

    forceten Well-Known Member

    Nelson ledges (sorry for all you fans of the track)

    And lets not forget summit main, when the surface was just coming up like mad on the hot days. To this day i still think I have some of the track in my belly pan
     
  3. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Well-Known Member

    Everyone says BHF is dangerous.....but I've never seen any injuries come out of there from anything other than the pavement, or another bike. & I've never seen a bike go through a gravel trap, over a tire wall, through about 20' (distance wise) of grass, & over a 4' chain link fence.

    At least not there!
     
  4. JT252

    JT252 Well-Known Member

    nelson is the worst i've been on but i love it.......outside of the carousel and the kink suck runoff wise
     
  5. sowega

    sowega #710

    Anywhere when you're on the same track as Mike "regularguy" Copoulos!
     
  6. TheGrouch

    TheGrouch Well-Known Member


    Not sure I understand your point. Your lack of personal experience with such situations doesn't change the fact that they've happened. The bikes don't go through the grass...they get launched off the outside curb, never touching the runoff area on the racing side of the wall.

    This one didn't clear the fence, but these shots illustrate how bikes get airborne there.
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  7. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    I like BHF. I'm not saying its any more dangerous than a lot of other tracks. I will say everything you listed above of not seeing I have witnessed multiple times. Just saying.
     
  8. XFBO

    XFBO Well-Known Member

    :crackup: Soooooo true.


    For those referencing a Canadian track with a wall up n close, y'all have to be thinking of Calabogie MotorSports. That place is/was heaven on earth!!! (3miles/20 turns!)
    The wall was on the left side of the track immediately following a 90+MPH left turn #1 (full course/clockwise), so there really isn't as much risk as you'd think. The wall does continue on til turn #2 (right) but there really isn't any point in pulling up close to it if you're carrying enough speed through one, you, basically, make a b line straight to T2 just barely left to the center line...at least that's the way I remember it, it's been a few years tho.
     
  9. inpayne

    inpayne Well-Known Member

    Turn 2 is scary, and i've heard of people getting helicoptered out from there.

    I crashed there last year at the very top of 5th gear on my SV, if I would have crashed a second earlier it would have been a nice trip to the air fence @120mph... yeah not fun.

    Instead I slid almost all the way to the corner worker station in 3!

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    That's where you can see where the bike ended up, you can see where turn 3 is starting.
     
  10. Mr Sunshine

    Mr Sunshine Banned

    Miller...outer course.
     
  11. ZiaThunder

    ZiaThunder Girly Racer

    Firebird main, has to in the top 3 if not at the very top of the list.
     
  12. RubberChicken

    RubberChicken PimpMasterT

    Mosport, late 70's. Terrifying.

    The AMA riders held a "rider's union" action at the September, 1978 event there, to get hay bales installed in front of the tire wall after Avrum Gudelski was killed during the Saturday practice. John Long said of that race "It's the only race I ever won while riding half-throttle down the front straight and trying to hold onto the bars!"
     
  13. Lee#144

    Lee#144 Track Newbie

    Tanacross is the name of it, basically airfield that uses cones for turns, bumpy but not dangerous and the grass/weeds are gone after the first few laps! I've been out there a few times, good bunch of folks out there
     
  14. mtmansl

    mtmansl Well-Known Member

    I love BHF, but I do agree that turn 2 is scary. The staff at Blackhawk have put a lot of effort into making the track safer, hopefully they can come up with a way to cut down a few trees at 2 and move the armco back another 50' or so. In my opinion BHF does not belong on this list...
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2012
  15. inpayne

    inpayne Well-Known Member

    Yeah, besides crashing into swamps it's not bad at all. Much much safer than what it used to be. That was before my time though.

    They are building a huge new building, I feel like they should have put resources into fixing the turn two wall first. It's rare to crash there, but it only takes one time...
     
  16. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Well-Known Member

    I agree that turn 2 is sketchy.
    I wish they'd cut the trees down in the grass past the bus stop.

    As far as my statement about 4......I know how bikes get launched there.....but on the spectator side of the fence is the part I've never seen.
     
  17. GSmann

    GSmann Well-Known Member

    A friend of mine died hitting a telephone guide wire there in the late 80's. There used to be a plaque in his memory on the wall near the podium
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2012
  18. some guy #2

    some guy #2 Well-Known Member

    The last turn at BHF (10 or whatever they number it as) was one of scarier ones I thought. Nothing like a forest for run off. I never paid attention to turn 2 but know a lot of people crash hard there. The bus stop never freaked me out either until I saw all these air born photos :(
     
  19. SteveThompson

    SteveThompson Banned by amafan

    Page 5 and nobody has said IRP? If it even spit rain every single bike will crash when it gets to the front straight. Some of the track was actually in the parking lot. There is a building in the back section that I can't believe nobody ever hit.

    Gateway.

    I bet if you went by number of injuries/deaths to motorcycle racers over the last few decades that Road Atlanta would top the list.
     
  20. jake coye

    jake coye Active Member

    Mixed feelings for Ponoco. The infield was fun IF you nailed the entrance to turn 1 (thanks Tommy D.) but the banking was scary bumpy & fast. Had to stay way inside going in, 'cause the ripples would make the bike drift over about a foot. Talk about double vision.
     

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