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The perils of Montana plates

Discussion in 'General' started by motion, Nov 26, 2025.

  1. Jed

    Jed mellifluous

    Something like that. Me spell gud.
     
  2. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    It still sucks, but Corps and LLC’s are $800 year not $1200. Or at least that’s what it was when I paid my taxes April 15th and I haven’t heard they raised it?
     
  3. Cooter!

    Cooter! Sarcasm level: Maximum

    You're right, still $800, been that for a very long time. I had some other fee's. Being legal is expensive:mad:.
     
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  4. A. Barrister

    A. Barrister Well-Known Member

    Isn't there a reason a lot of companies are Delaware based, and specifically referred to as "Delaware" companies?
     
  5. ClemsonsR6

    ClemsonsR6 Well-Known Member

    Read my comment; there is already case law on the books in favor of the MT loophole; WD is just significantly more thrust into the public eye.
     
  6. tophyr

    tophyr Grid Filler

    I looked into doing this for my motorhome, but TX (and Travis county specifically, apparently) are hardasses about "any vehicle used in TX by a TX resident must be registered in TX" even if it's already registered in another state.

    For out-of-state vehicles and users, there is a 30 day stay limit - so even if I did some sham "it's owned by an out-of-state LLC" thing (which they would pierce anyway), I am realistically not going to leave the state every 29 days. From the stories I've heard, they'll actually ask you to prove that you left... an out-of-state fuel receipt or etc.

    TX acts conservative, but they want their fuggin vig. Bitchass bitches
     
  7. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    How is it a sham? There is an out of state company, that owns a vehicle, and is used in TX? I would ask the county when the last time they "raided" the local hertz, Avis, Budget, etc..... And I would bet Google, Tesla and other big azz companies with offices there have a couple vehicles registered somewhere else as well.

    Im not yelling at you, but this is the kind of thing i wish someone with enough money would fight them on.
     
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  8. JBraun

    JBraun Well-Known Member

    This must have been a commercial vehicle? That number is crazy. My Sprinter (3/4 ton diesel) was a little over $500 to transfer to CA from WI.
     
  9. baitdragger

    baitdragger Well-Known Member

    the state is very favorable to companies due to extra legal protections and better corporate tax rates. So many companies are incorporated there it allows the state to basically wipe out state sales tax

    it’s also a good state to register your Challenger or Gulfstream.
     
  10. redtailracing

    redtailracing gone tuna fishin'

    ^what he said. One is choosing to get a service from a private entity. Don’t like the price? You are free to seek alternatives.

    One is blatant theft with a gun to your head (figuratively but potentially also literally).
     
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  11. ToofPic

    ToofPic Well-Known Member

    Bottom line, regardless of any state/vehicle..Its just another ass-rape American tax. I mean why stop at vehicles? Start from the womb! Stamp something on us from year to year that we paid existence tax. It would make as much sense.Or just send someone to pick me up by my ankles on Fridays and shake the shit outta me til money falls out? I applaud anyone that can F- a tax
     
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  12. Martin Lewis

    Martin Lewis Can we go back to the track already?

    Nope, just my personal truck.
     
  13. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    somebody can correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure VA, along with yearly safety inspections, has a personal property tax on vehicles yearly commensurate with their value, which may or may not be at the county level i dunno. yearly tax on goods you already own is always cute (beyond property taxes). i just feel like i remember always hearing this from people who live in Fairfax, which would be the place i'd end up i guess if i ever moved across the river (i won't).
     
  14. Kurlon

    Kurlon Well-Known Member

    In Maine it's called the excise tax, paid yearly as part of registration. It's not based on current value but instead MSRP with a decreasing mil rate over 6 years, after 6 years the fee is fixed.
     
  15. JBraun

    JBraun Well-Known Member

    That’s brutal. I’ll stop complaining about CA.
     
  16. bergs

    bergs Well-Known Member

    What's the secret behind needing a physical address for the LLC's registered in MT?
     
  17. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    Probably UPS store like:
    John Q Taxavoider
    3000 Tax Scheme Blvd
    Suite 900
    Billings Mt

    or use a lawyer as an agent/address.
     
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  18. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking Spit on that thing

    My suspicion is most states are going to go a similar route, and likely work with the federales to make an example out of some people who are using their personal vehicle through a Montana/SD registered LLC.

    They're going to go after those people for tax fraud/evasion, which at a federal level gets you a direct ticket to Pound Me In The Ass Prison.
     
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  19. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    Taxation is theft

    remember the tea thing in Boston back then? Look how far we’ve come
     
  20. ToofPic

    ToofPic Well-Known Member

    I know when Billy Ethridge was alive,we had a talk about the tags on his RV.He explained a loophole in Montana,or one of those empty lonely states was dirt cheap,and he
    had been registering it there.Trucking companies are big offenders too,if you look at all the identical state tags on trailers especially.

    The Whistlin Diesel video was pretty fun to watch on how hard he got pinched. He's so pissed off he claimed he was gonna buy property in the state he was ticketed from?
    and register the shit out of everything he bought there.I thought he gave a pretty good speech,if you haven't seen the video. And he was indeed targeted.
    Ga. came mostly clean, a few years back. You pay the initial hard hit on the purchase, then the remaining years its something like $25? I forget the yearly amount.
    So instead of a yearly ass reem, they just slip you a finger, and a pat on the back! :)
    CA is a whole different monster. I have no idea what that's gonna do to me? The girlfriend got a new car, and I bought a Stinger last Friday. The tags are already paid until 2026?
    I don't get it, but I'm sure I will find out come next May. The original tags stay with whatever you buy, and the tab you pay will always be from the original purchase month of the
    vehicle, not you're birthday :confused:
     

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