Last bike I bought had a power commander in it and went to shit in no time, that bike then had a proper dyno tune done on the ECU and was great, sold that bike and took some years off from the track. Then in beginning of January bought and paid for another track bike which the parties selling it and the last owner decided to make me wait till very recently to actually send me the bike. Was sold to me as a nearly new track built bike with 3 session on it done at one track day. When I got the bike it was damaged, not by the shipper but by the parties selling the bike, I fixed what could and did a lot of other things to it to improve a lot of questionable build issues. So FINALLY got the bike on the track and fueling issues started to happen to the point it was not safe to ride with cutting out and almost dying randomly. So another bike has now gone to shit thanks to Dynojet amazing Power Commander. So to now change to a tune in the ECU I'm looking at 3 or more months and a 10 hour drive if I can actually get it done. The horrible alternative is to buy another piece of shit Dyno jet product which would be the current Power Commander 6, the one that is in the bike was a Commander 3. I have the tune file which is in ZR.djm file format, does this file work if I have to but the Commander 6? I ask this because they don't even reply to emails to them and to pour salt in the wound that stupid piece of junk is $500 plus.
simple answer, no. The PC6 will only accept tune files specifically for the PC6. I had a similar experience and chose to replace my failed PC5 with a PC6. Not only was I disheartened to learn that I couldn't move the custom tune over, but Dynojet doesn't (didn't at the time, IDK about now) offer any tune files for my bike except for the stock exhaust. It's kind of a racket, but I don't have a tuner within 5 hours of me, so PC6 with an autotune it is.
There is/was a guy pout of the Dallas area, that would flash tune an ECU based on what add-ons, mods, etc. and shipt it back to you within a week turn aeround! I currently still have it on my street K5 1000. I actually had it put on a dyno to see what it did anf the a/f ratios, etc. It was very spot on. Unless you have to have every single ounce of power at every rpm, I'd look into that. FWIW. I have a full Bazzaz system on my K61000 track bike- iun the avatar. I had some fueling issues. I downloaded some peoples uploaded files (yep, they still keep a website going/w/o phone customer support LOL), and it runs well now once again. * 1.5 track seasons ago my track bike was eunning like sh*t like you say and it was sort of a danger to ride it that way. Good luck, I'm just trying to give you some other options.
OK, thanks for the info, so then Dyno tune and Power Commander are a total scam , buyer beware What a total joke scammer outfit
I wouldn't go so far as to call them a scam. Their products do work, but they're not as reliable long-term as we would like and their pricing suggests.
Thanks may have to do that, but at this point I may just hang up the suit and get out of bikes, there some super great people in the sport but the industry supplying it is a bunch of roaches, a search of PC users makes that pretty obvious. I sunk a ton of money into the bike plus new gear,then go to a track day, new tires travel ect ect , like a $1200 day just to run So the bikes had a dyno tune in the PC3 and it was a very good tune , so that would be $300 or plus which is now in the toilet if you can't put it in a PC6
lmao... DJ wanted volume sales. On the early units they would fail so often you needed 3... 1 in the bike, 1 in the process of being RMA'd, and the 3rd in stock ready to replace the defective unit. Then they released the "advanced" units with the ability to change the ignition timing for a $150 premium. Meanwhile the initial ones had that ability but weren't automated with their tuning software. They got alot of egg on their face for that one.
With ECU based tuning so readily available I’m not sure why anyone would still use a piggyback unit unless you had no other choice.
Exactly that is why on the last bike I went to the ECU method, On this bike It had a dyno tune into the PC done on it a year ago which is real dumb and the only info I got was it ran on the track a couple of session, I were to guess then it started crapping out. Then then thing was sold to me to go waste my time and money to find that out. So I will make another attempt to contact Dynotune and invite them here to join the discussion. This would be a reasonable and fair way for them to air in public there opinions on the failure rate of the product. So If they are a reputable company this would be good for them to publicly discuss, if they choose not to, well that would speak for itself.
I used to be an anti-'canned' tune guy, if you're going to spend the money have a shop spend the time to build a tune for your bike. This opinion was formed back in the EARLY PowerCommander days where ECU level tuning either wasn't possible, or meant hand burning EEPROMs based on manual math from stare and compares at dyno run sheets... I've got a canned tune from 2WDW in my MT-09 based on my mods and my opinion has since changed on the topic. If that bike isn't crazy built, I'd mail the ECU out and get it flashed and call it good.
Why not just take PC off and ride with OEM map. I have yet to ride stock bike that is unsafe or unridable
Unless I missed something, the OP doesn't mention if the intake, motor, and exhaust are stock or not, so running the stock tune might not be a good solution.
I had few bikes I was tracking (gsxr's, R1) without tunes. I would keep stock filter, run aftermarket exhaust and pump fuel. Never had issues. Clapped out sv's you can modify shit out of them and still run stock map
2005 Gsxr 1000 full yosh system , intake mods, was lean on stock tune, also stock tune i believe has a limiter on the first 3 gears is my understanding. A dealer told me the ZR.djm file for the dyno tune would work, since then he got back to me and said it won't work on a PC-6 . So dynojset went out of there way to make sure you don't want there products. So it's a mail order flash or nothing unless I want to wait till the fall. At some point I'll post the complete story of this fiasco
I would reach out to a couple of the flash companies and see who’s got some time with one of them. Honestly the mail order stuff is pretty good, I wouldn’t be concerned about doing it.
If I decide to continue I will probably do that , I've raped pretty bad by a few people on this bike so I'm not sure I want this thing. Who knows I may even post some things on here if the parties who owe me money a parts don't get them to me pretty dam soon