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Moto2 rule change

Discussion in 'General' started by TRK, Oct 11, 2015.

  1. TRK

    TRK Well-Known Member

    To ensure that signals from quickshifter are exclusively used for that purpose, a standard six pin connector will now be mandatory. This will enable the technical staff to check that any signals from this component are not used for performance enhancing purposes.


    What performance enhancing purposes could it be used for?
     
  2. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    My memories real fuzzy but I seem to recall accusations that Marc Marquez was running some kind of traction control through his quick shifter, or something. Haven't heard anything about that since.
     
  3. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK ├╝ber alles!

    Well, if you're creative and have the cash there's quite a bit you can do that bend (or completely break) the rules. Whispers and rumors of cheating in the past.

    Edit: Papa covered it well enough.
     
  4. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    I'm assuming gear dependent fuel and ignition maps are not against the rules no?
     
  5. peakpowersports

    peakpowersports Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure that's legal as the HRC ECU allows that stuff to be changed.
     
  6. RM Racing

    RM Racing Tool user

    The ECU only allows pretty general adjustments to the fuel mapping. Neither fuel or ignition are gear dependent, just global.
     
  7. yamahogg500

    yamahogg500 Well-Known Member

    MM had the fuel stay on during the shift. That was supposed to give him a slight HP advantage. Not that he needed it.
     
  8. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    Every little bit helps. It makes it easier to win if you have the talent and can use something to your advantage that others are not able to.

    In a somewhat spec series in regards to engine building/tuning and tires...this would be a nice advantage to clear out of the close procession/pack racing sooner and escape possible carnage as turns are taken 2 and 3 wide quite often.
     
  9. caferace

    caferace No.

    NEVER underestimate the craftiness of software engineers.

    Seriously.

    -jim
     
  10. Knotcher

    Knotcher Well-Known Member

    I wonder if they packed an IMU into the QS.
     
  11. JJJerry

    JJJerry Well-Known Member

    That's what Volkswagen said!
     
  12. caferace

    caferace No.

    You of all folks, know what can be done in the tiniest of modules. Give us access to the bus and the world is your oyster.

    Speaking hypothetically, of course. :D

    -jim
     
  13. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

  14. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    This could be yours for $6...you may have buy 999 extras for your friends...but still...:D
     
  15. Black89

    Black89 Well-Known Member

    Sw engineers are idiots firmware engineers now that's a different story. Or HW engineers :D
     
  16. Knotcher

    Knotcher Well-Known Member

    Sure. Search algos are easy.
     
  17. caferace

    caferace No.

    At the 3 microsecond level.

    Don't get me wrong. All props to old school guys that can code assembly all day long. But somebody has to make sure the chit is actually functional.

    -jim
     
  18. RM Racing

    RM Racing Tool user

    The quickshifter itself intermittently moves relative to the vehicle, so I'm not convinced that an IMU is the processor being used.

    The tech guys were particularly concerned about the harness and the number of signals in and out of the QS. QS can legally cut ignition, so maybe crank signal and throttle signal go in for rate of rise TC? Primitive TC beats no TC. I'm not sure exactly what they are doing.
     
  19. Knotcher

    Knotcher Well-Known Member

    Not sure what your point is. The choice of language doesn't determine the complexity of the problem solved.

    There are some wicked, super-genius level people building things in managed code.
     
  20. Knotcher

    Knotcher Well-Known Member

    Um... not really? I mean, depends on how primitive I guess.
     

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