M. A. Superbike / Stock 1000 "Rumor"

I heard it directly from the mouth of MA racer that the rumor was, SB was going bye bye. Then I heard it a couple more times directly from other MA racers that the rumor was MA wanted to do away with SB. I would assume they'd kill the S1000 class as well. Can anyone support or kill this rumor? Also if so, why kill the classes? What's the reasoning(s) if it were to happen?

 

MA doesn't want "kill" anything. There job is to put on a show that will sell tickets, subscriptions, and merchandise. If you think of the classes as products, whichever product is not selling, that is the one they want to replace.

There's a couple of other threads talking about this in the Next Gen SS categories.

 

To be replaced with electric ADV bikes secretly in production as we speak

 

We need a Royal Enfield bagger class

 

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With turbo's.

 

So you’re saying to bring back the F-USA run what ya brung class? Say less my good man!

 

It'd be too fast for any tracks in the US and the tires wouldn't last 3 laps. No!

 

The same tracks exist that they used to run on. The methanol monster wouldn’t be any faster today than it was back in the day.

 

This rumor has been floating around since September of last year at a minimum. IIRC, Mr. Spies asked Mr. Stanboli if he was at all interested in making the 'top' class Next Gen SS, which Mr. Stanboli was not.

I also remember something about Mr. Spies lamenting the fact Rahal would like to jump to the top class but didn't want to shell out the development $$$ for SBK just to see the class disappear in a couple years.

Also-also, if you remember Scholtz's post-race press conference at NJMP someone asked him about going back to SBK, he gave a kinda roundabout answer. Maybe the above info skewed my view a little, but it was something about another season of supersport experience (on that brand new bike) probably being a benefit for his next trip up.

On a semi-unrelated note. More often than not, I take the Commodore Barry Bridge back into NJ on my way home from work. There's usually a NJMP billboard there and when they advertise the MotoAmerica date, you have a big picture of one of the Attack Yamahas, but also an equally big picture of a Bagger.

 

I'm sure if you sponsor it they will consider it!!!

 

Oh c'mon...we got electronics and traction control. The Duc makes like 250 hp at the crank and Herrin is smoking everyone this season.

Add a turbo and the fun factor (read "Joe hold my beer...watch this") goes up with crowds of ex napcar fans showing up

 

But with the base set ups you can get today you could build shit that'd eat the MM alive and poop Big Papas.

Shit, imagine what you could build with cubic dollars and something as common as a GSXR750 today?

 

I think that's mostly correct. Spies had discussed the move with a few others also. Rahal had said from the inception of the team that they wanted/intended to go into the Superbike class. The real issue at hand is Ducati already has a factory supported team in SBK.

 

I'd be real scared of they threw the rules out the window at what that BMW could become. But it would have to turn.

 

Back then, the 1000/1100s that they started with made 140hp. When they got to 180ish, they turned FX into a 600sb class. When the base bike makes 200+hp, things could get crazy.

I think they let NGSS start swapping triples and swingarms as they build it into the new SB class. 1000ss is still affordable, let that stay as a feeder class.

 

Don't flog me for this, Im a novice. How do Team Principals make or break anything when it comes to classes? Is it just where they're allocating their dollars?

 

I want to say I was getting 200 hp outta my Yamamonster knock off but that'd be a lie. But it ate tires like a fat kid eats donuts.

Can't remember what it put out and it went on the Dyno but it was a shit racebike and a worse street bike.

 

That's my point, those were 60-80hp over stock. Do that to a modern bike and try to make it work safely for anything but a straight line, it'll be bad.

 

Oh, I get it and it'd be real HP, not made up bullshit HP lies like back then.

and why would you build a 260 hp BMW when you could lease a 4 year old Ducati motogp bike and throw it out there?