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Flatrock Motorsports Park

Discussion in 'General' started by drop, Jul 19, 2022.

  1. metricdevilmoto

    metricdevilmoto Just forking around

    https://flatrockmotorclub.com/
     
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  2. regularguy

    regularguy Always Krispy

    This thing can't get done soon enough. VIR pulled MAs usual weekend and gave it to Hyperfest so most likely no VIR for MA in 2023..
     
  3. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Vir loves some car events
     
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  4. ClemsonsR6

    ClemsonsR6 Well-Known Member

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  5. BigBird

    BigBird blah

  6. Dan Dubeau

    Dan Dubeau Well-Known Member

    What is the deal with armco? You'd think the car guys wouldn't like it either no? I mean a simple off track spin into a gravel trap, or grass runoff would be much better and cheaper for them than an expensive bodywork/armco bill, and the associated impact. It's not like it's impossible to build fun interesting layouts on these large chunks of land, there is usually always lots of room to work with. I'm genuinely curious why armco is so favoured.
     
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  7. Dave Wolfe

    Dave Wolfe I know nuttin!

    No explanation needed. Its a certified fact that ohio sucks. And nobody can drive there either.
     
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  8. Robin172

    Robin172 Well-Known Member

    They're not too bad, until they leave Ohio.
     
  9. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Once they realize they need it, they'll put it by medical :D
     
  10. ahrma_581

    ahrma_581 Well-Known Member

    I think the people that buy into these motorsport country clubs all think like track day riders. You want to go faster than you can (legally) on the street but are happy to circulate mostly at 7/10's, with the occasional squirt on the long stretches.

    Too some of them seem to be built to cram as many corners into a piece of real estate as possible. So run off is minimized. Go off track and wind up on another section, maybe going the opposite direction, or clear off the property. I think Apex Motorsport in Maricopa, AZ is pretty representative. (Altho' it may be an extreme case: last time I drove by it was about 80% Armcoed.
     
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  11. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    As it was explained to me -

    Armco is meant to redirect the vehicle after impact and slow it down (when struck at the right angle) and marshals can then push it out of the impact zone. When a car gets in gravel, they tend to sink or dig in and flip so they have to be towed or lifted out of the gravel trap which means they stay in the impact area. I'm not a track safety expert but I (semi) understand the logic.
     
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  12. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    It's an absolute copout. Yes, that is all true - but totally ignores that hitting armco is an impact to the driver/vehicle and sinking in gravel is not. So they're saying it's okay to get hurt as long as you can be moved out of the way quicker.
     
  13. Dan Dubeau

    Dan Dubeau Well-Known Member

    Sounds like that is the underlying logic behind that answer. "We don't have the necessary labour and equipment available to come extract your car from the gravel trap quickly, so we'd rather you just smack this barrier instead so we'll be able to get you back to the pits quicker and get the track under green sooner." , "oh and BTW here is a bill for track repair to the section of armco you damaged"
     
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  14. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    That and the underlying we didn't buy enough land or have enough money for gravel traps so armco it is.
    That's from the track perspective anyway some organizations are weird about wanting the armco.
     
  15. vfrket

    vfrket Lost Member

    I live here and had not heard of this. Will dig into more when return from the hurricane.
     
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  16. Chino52405

    Chino52405 Well-Known Member

    On the topic of how these CC places are focused: Autobahn CC in Joliet IL has a few reputable shops running from garages there and I think IndyCar rookie David Malukis is a product of that place. It definitely seems more racing focused than many of these places.
     
  17. BigBird

    BigBird blah

  18. Phl218

    Phl218 .


    A 10 acre skid pad

    lots of room to work with ... from some mages it looks like they integrated the track into the landscape where a turn on a ridge does not allow for a gravel pit. ... anyhow. maybe they just wanted to make it Nürburgring'ish ...
     
  19. dsapsis

    dsapsis El Jefe de los Monos

    "Does not allow"? I'd have to see a DEM, but we are talking relatively small earth moving to make runoff, and a D8 can do that in a couple days max.
     
  20. Dan Dubeau

    Dan Dubeau Well-Known Member

    Effin Germans......

    :D
     

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