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Delta Ops…..do better

Discussion in 'General' started by ChemGuy, Apr 11, 2025.

  1. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    Not if its broke....Are they airworthy with no operable AC packs? I am prettyy sure one can be down, but both?

    Or maybe they left the fuel card at home and didnt want to use their own CC....lol
     
  2. inpayne

    inpayne Well-Known Member

    Usually can fly with 1 at a lower altitude. With 2 out, well there would be no pressurization at all…
     
  3. Steak Travis

    Steak Travis Well-Known Member

    On our jet One engine doesn’t cool the plane as well as the apu so like today when the gates were a cluster . We were single engine but I turned on the apu and transferred the AC to run off the apu. Kept the plane cool. Sorry for the guys that get profit sharing that I burned a little extra fuel I guess but our delayed customers were happy getting off the plane.

    my wife was on a plane to Edinburgh and they were delayed an hour for the PA system and they wouldn’t turn on the apu and they all cooked in the back. The ground air doesn’t keep up in the summers
     
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  4. MGM

    MGM Well-Known Member

    Some of the older clapped out 737s don’t do well running the packs on the engines at idle. The answer would be to start the APU, however, it’s not uncommon for the APU to be inop. When the summer schedules are running, most operations are using every bit of lift they can muster, that means less downtime for maintenance and more broken equipment. It’s true, the NG 737 is the clapped out SV 650 of the airline industry.
     
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  5. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    Oh god....you just triggered a memory from my brief Sky Peso (f^&*k you Ed) to AA days. Bus shows up with an Inop APU. No biggie, there's a huffer at the gate. But its down to. OK..bring another over...short dleay...its broken as well. Took over an hour to get it sorted. Missed connection.
     
  6. YamahaRick

    YamahaRick Yamaha Two Stroke Czar

  7. vfrket

    vfrket Lost Member

    Thanks for posting that Rick!
     
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  8. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    @Gino230
    @inpayne
    @MGM
    @Steak Travis
    @HPPT

    You guys see these things before....

    [​IMG]

    They make great sounds everyone like to hear....lol.

    your cruising at 35k...just chillin and you hear Terrain...Terrain...Pull Up...like WTF
     
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  9. MGM

    MGM Well-Known Member

    That would be a fast track to having a long talk with Professional Standards.
     
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  10. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    I like the other one better, that has the Overspeed clacker, Autopilot disconnect, Fire bell, and Pressurization alarm.
     
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  11. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    AA has a weird policy on this, It's not the first time passengers have been told this and it's absolutely untrue, as Inpayne says above. Deferred APUs are pretty rare these days, considering the level of training of ground crews and the need for a start cart, etc. Not to mention dying from heat while on the ground.

    I will not take an airplane with a single pack or deferred APU in summer. We have 850 airplanes, go find another one. But then again my Give a Chit Meter needs recalibration I'm told.
     
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  12. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    Use the overspeed in the FO is taxiing too fast...Lol.
     
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  13. JBraun

    JBraun Well-Known Member

    A few years ago, I spent three hours on the ground leaving Mexico City on Vivo Aerobus, the Allegiant of the South. It was 90 outside and over 100 on the plane. I had sweat dripping off my nose, but I can see the humor in such experiences. My Mexican counterparts were not so understanding.

    People were yelling and pounding on the plane. I couldn't believe it. If this were Delta out of ATL, half the plane would have wound up on a no-fly list. :crackup:
     
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  14. MGM

    MGM Well-Known Member


    Your operation is quite different then. We’ll MEL an APU at the drop of a hat and run the plane until the MEL expires.
     
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  15. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

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  16. Martin Lewis

    Martin Lewis Can we go back to the track already?

  17. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    His name is Apu.
     
  18. Martin Lewis

    Martin Lewis Can we go back to the track already?

    Yep. That went:whoosh:
     
  19. inpayne

    inpayne Well-Known Member

    Yeah well at WN they are gonna have to find new pilots instead of a new plane. No way in hell are most guys accepting a apu inop in the summer.

    I’ve only done it once and it was because well… I blew it up on the inbound leg. Cracked that sucker right in half.

    In the example above they were prob just being cheap and not starting at the apu. F that.
     
  20. JBraun

    JBraun Well-Known Member

    It's getting worse, as @Gino230 suggested it would. I've flown Delta almost exclusively for 8 years, and delays happen, but very infrequently.

    In the last month, I've been delayed, cancelled, or stranded at an airport on every flight I've taken.

    I called yesterday because the app wouldn't let me change a flight. The rep told me no seats were available. I hung up and booked a new ticket on the same supposedly full flight.

    I don't know what's happening, but it's not positive.
     
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