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In that case youre crashing.

There is a takeoff speed called V1. If you have an engine failure below V1, you abort the takeoff. Your performance planning would have assured you have sufficient runway length to stop.

If you have the engine failure at or above V1, you are committed to the takeoff.

 

Part of the takeoff calculation is determining how much runway you need get to basically your rotation speed and stop again. You can't launch if you don't have enough room to stop. And you can't load the airplane so much that you wouldn't be able to keep going if you lose an engine after you rotate. Gotta unload fuel,cargo or pax until it can fly crippled.

If you lose both, your time was up.

 

Sad....max fuel is upwards of 101,000kg or 224,000 lbs of fuel so crashing at takeoff is certain death.

Poor families

 

121 and commercial cant....me...squints at runway....counts on fingers bit....that ought to be enough.

Vr plus 20ft is my motto.

 

Mover, ex fighter guy who flys 787 now, has a video out.

 

Sounds like they did an intersection takeoff...like left a few thousand feet behind them....ugh.....looks more like human errors.

 

I know very little about airplanes but when I went through air marshal training so i could fly armed commercially as a fed I did learn a decent amount about the redundancy of systems on the aircraft in the event of failures. For our training it was how and where to shoot etc, etc

For this crash You mentioned fuel or fuel delivery system. Where does the fuel pull from. So in laymen’s terms are there multiple fuel tanks or does all the fuel pull from a specific tank? I’m guessing it varies by plane but with both engines going out could fuel be the issue?

 

wings are full of fuel and there’s central fuselage tanks as well. Fuel can be moved around but usually central tanks feed the engines while wing tanks keep the central tanks topped up. Basically from the ends of wings towards center. End of flight the wings are usually empty.

 

I did all my private trading from a 9000-ft runway in a C152. FBO was at the departure end of the runway used 99% of the time. Never did that shit. That was a long-ass taxi to take-off.

I would fly down the runway to catch one of the last two taxiways on landing. But for takeoff? Gimma ALL that runway. I kept that habit after training. Might have broken my rule once to get out of IAD. Can't remember for sure.

 

In Florida, we call that drug running...

 

Those things can barely climb under their own weight. I can't imagine bringing cargo.

 

As you mentioned there are redundancies in the system so a single failure in the fuel system wouldn't affect both engines. It could be a fuel issue in that they got fueled with contaminated fuel, but that seems like a long shot as well.

 

Everything is pure speculation at this point. Here’s my theory (and I’ve seen this scenario in training and in the Safety world), when the pilot flying said “Gear Up” the pilot monitoring brought the flaps up by accident. Heavy with a high density altitude it put them behind the power curve.

 

Enough lift to stay in the air in ground effect, then no more ground effect and vertical momentum go bye bye?

 

lots of the AV forums are speculating same thing.

I would question fuel contamination as the fuel is in multiple planes that left with no issue that we know
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PIC has 8,000 hours according to internet. Maybe he just got unlucky or made an error.

no one ever thought rob holland would be brought down by a counter weight

 

Geezus. And I thought my local 5,100' runway was nice with the C150. I still remember the first time I did TO calculations and realized I could theoretically take off and land 5 times on the main runway. The flight school is right in the middle, so it doesn't really matter which way the wind is blowing. Except for that one time the winds completely changed during runup.

 

I liked how Mover pointed out the elevation, the high heat, the full compliment of passengers, the fuel load required to get to London, and using every bit of a too short runway. The flap setting seemed to bother him as he said the 787 has programmed flap setting and would not have given them the "green" light for their situation.
I really like 'The Mover & Gonky Show' on Mondays. They get really good guests, WOMBAT being my favorite.
Gonky being an M/X guy is the icing on the cake.

 

Based on the two videos, I would say a bird strike is unlikely. It would take several large birds in each engine to shut them down, and if that happened, there would be flames, smoke, and debris coming out of both ends of the engines, which isn't visible on either video. Nor are birds visible. It is also highly unlikely that both engines would fail simultaneously from a hardware or system failure. Contaminated fuel could cause it, but that is also unlikely as it would take a lot of water and the fuel delivery infrastructure should have water separators at several points. As several people with way more experience than me have said, it looks like finding out where the flaps were set may be the key in figuring out what happened.

 

I can't believe there was a survivor. And he was relatively unharmed.

 

As already mentined by mutliple comments on the video, this guy got a ton of things wrong because just like every other clout chasing social media dipshit he's too impatient to wait for actual facts and click bait is life.