2018 F150 2.7 valve job quote

It's nice to see someone follow a trouble tree diagnosis to pinpoint the issue.

I think people are generally too quick to dump otherwise good vehicles based on the metric of what it's worth vs. the cost to repair. What it's worth is more than the value if you sold it. By that I mean its massive depreciation hit has already happened and it's providing value like getting you to work. If you consider the transaction costs of selling a busted truck, buying a new one, the amount spent on interest on a new loan, the instant depreciation hit, and the opportunity costs of tying up all the capital, that major repair on the OG truck starts to look pretty smart. I say keep and look around for cheaper repair options such as a good used motor from a wrecked donor. YouTube some remove and replace videos and do it with some buddies, lol.

 

I don't know fords well but the labor to remove both heads.
2.7L Eng,4WD Both
Includes: Remove carbon and check surfaces for warpage. Includes adjust Valves (where applicable) and clean and adjust Spark Plugs.
32.0

Long block
2.7L Eng,4WD w/Body On
Consists of a Cylinder Block fitted with Pistons, Rings, Connecting Rods, Crankshaft and all Bearings, Cylinder Head(s), Camshaft(s), Timing Chain or Belt and Sprockets or Gears. Includes (where applicable): Clean and transfer Fuel and Electrical Assemblies, Engine Mounts, Manifolds, Valve Cover(s), Oil Pan, Oil Pump, Timing Cover(s), Water Pump, Clutch and Flywheel. Adjust Valves.
28.5

Like 18.5 complete engine.
Engineers are making this shit hard and it's expensive.

 

https://fraserengineco.com/crate-engine-for-ford-2-7l-2013-2022/

 

Once you get the engine an engine shop locally can install this for you $1100-1200$$ for installation.

 

That’s what I was thinking. If it were mine, I think I could do the work, but for only $1200 to an independent, I would take the easy way out.

Back in 90-91 my Maxima threw a rod, towing my race bike to Willow Springs. I bought a replacement long block from Nissan and paid an independent $350 to install it. Four times more today sounds really good, and that Ford would be a lot more work versus a straight 6.

 

you would have to find somone that works for $50/hour.
I am on a dirt road out side a village in michigan and my labor rate is over $100. would be minimum 2k 18.5 hours plus cleaning and fluid for a complete engine install over 3k for a long block. 28.5 hour plus fluids and small parts. Fords basically made all the repair require a cab removal so all fluids plus ac recovery.

 

He is close to border, could load engine and head over the border and have it installed there

 

Side note: Have you seen this?

 

I did and i think it's a cool design.
issue as my wife pointed out will be clearance can you get the cab high enough with a front clip to do any of the work? most shops are doing cab lifts than roll the frame and drive train ahead to be able to unbolt and lift the engines out.
unless these go nearly double the height of a standard hoist it wont be much help.

 

"Like the old joke says, engineers would trip over thirty virgins just to f**k one mechanic."

 

I take umbrage with that! I helped design an entire Nuclear power plant with maintenance in mind. The one spot where the pressure relief tank just had to have a pipe cut across a walk way in the basement of the containment building and they made me dance in front of the client's design board. Sometimes it just has to be "that" way.
PS I cuss out the car designers all the time.

 

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the problem with pour in intake cleaners on direct injection motors (2.7 and 3.5l) is the intake valves get bypassed. no fuel ever hits and cleans off the intake valves, and is why these ecoboost motors have troubles way before other engine types.
i'm no mechanic, but glad i got rid of my 3.5L ecoboost f150 at 140,000 miles. i think i got lucky getting it to last that long without issues.

 

Sometimes you look at stuff and think, ‘You can tell the person who designed this will never have to work on it!’

 

Interesting tear down of a 2.7 on the I do cars channel on YT
I just noticed that each rod has their own journal on the crankshaft not 2 sharing 1
Unusual mains bracing too wonder why they went with that versus a lower skirt with cross bolting on the block

 

Go look at the valves though. The intakes still get carboned up quite a bit. Definitely doesn't keep them clean like an 'only' port injection engine does. Even those can get gunky if not romped on somewhat regularly.

 

the problem with pour in intake cleaners on direct injection motors (2.7 and 3.5l) is the intake valves get bypassed. no fuel ever hits and cleans off the intake valves, and is why these ecoboost motors have troubles way before other engine types.
i'm no mechanic, but glad i got rid of my 3.5L ecoboost f150 at 140,000 miles. i think i got lucky getting it to last that long without issues.[/QUOTE]
I think the stuff to try is CRC products GDI IVT intake valve cleaner, that you spray directly into the intake. Just used it on my daughters 2019 Terrain 1.5Turbo that has 240,000kms on it. Not sure if it will help, but the tests I have seen showed it does if the buildup isnt too bad already

 

Fun fact. 2nd gen 2.7a even though they’re dual injection only really use port injection during start. I had a bad injector or something and it would shake during start and then maybe 30 sec later smooth out as DI injectors took over.

 

Based on the EV thread I thought everyone got 400,000 out of their gas vehicles with zero repairs?