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How do you steer?

Discussion in 'General' started by Ra.Ge. Raptor, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    Maybe some details get lost in translation. And it's targeted to amateur /beginner td riders. So a very good one for people who need to understand "why trail brake?"
    It's a promo video, after all... (Dunlop, mainly)
     
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  2. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    There's the hidden gem!
    Go to Podcast #10 at 05:20. This podcast is about body position and body timing but, since everything is interconnected, Ken grabs the chance to talk about steering with the brakes and peg weighting, how to and when to. He also clarifies when countersteering is the primary steering force . An eye opener.
     
  3. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    Hey, I just wanted to thank everyone who answered. Not having a chance to attend a school, such as YCRS, and trying to clarify matters that are not 100% clear in my head, it is very important to read opinions from people who actually race. There's a lot of misinformation around the internet.

    What I got from this thread is a better understanding of things people like Ken Hill or Jason DiSalvo say. That is really important to me.

    Things really are quantifiable and someone has to be an adjustable rider to extract the best performance out of his motorcycle for the situation. (all Ken Hill's vocabulary :D)
     
  4. SethG

    SethG Well-Known Member

    You know, this stuff is written down in textbooks with actual equations at this point, and has been for decades. There's absolutely no need to crowd-source opinions or look for a seasoned veteran. Steering motion splits into rectilinear and curvilinear motion and then is well studied and documented.
     
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  5. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    But, but, but...did they take into account the development of radial tires back then? :D
     
  6. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    What if you're on a treadmill?
     
  7. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    A book like that could help you build a bike and give it the characteristics you want. Sure, you could extract information about riding, if you're a beginner and don't understand "countersteering".

    But the truth is, there's no consensus on what makes a great rider in our sport. There's still too much misinformation like "steer as quickly as possible" or "never use the brakes while leaned".
     
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  8. sbk1198

    sbk1198 Well-Known Member

    I think there is, it's just very hard to accomplish. It's a combination of physical coordination/aptitude + great understanding of physics + huge freakin balls! All the MotoGP riders scored a 10/10 on each of those 3 categories :D Personally, I'm at a 6 + 10 + 3, so I know exactly why I'm slow :D
     
  9. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

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  10. Lawdog78

    Lawdog78 Well-Known Member

    7 years!
     
  11. rohorn

    rohorn Well-Known Member

    The video that Fortnine video is based on:

     
  12. Tristan

    Tristan Well-Known Member

    JFC what's next- an oil thread???
     
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  13. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    I use a variety of oils, depending on the circumstances.

    Olive oil for pastas and general berling duties.

    Avocado oil for salads

    Butter for pan frying veggies

    Peanut for high temp searing

    Canola for deep frying.

    Note that’s canola, not cannoli. Cannoli oil is for sending knuckle babies to a watery grave in the clogged shower drain.
     
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  14. Tristan

    Tristan Well-Known Member

    Rotella or GTFO
     
  15. Jed

    Jed mellifluous

    How do you clear your cast iron? Soap, water only, scrubber??? Should you grind your cast iron smooth? What's the best way to season cast iron? How do you strip a seasoning that's gotten crusty???
     
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  16. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    Anybody have any recommendations for vacuums?
     
  17. tjnyzf

    tjnyzf Well-Known Member

    Nope, they all suck!
     
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  18. tzrider

    tzrider CZrider

    Only 7 pages?..... For how to ride a bike?


    Only 7 pages.
     
  19. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    What they're not taking into account is whether it's a corner that you need to brake for or not.

    HUGE miss
     
  20. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

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