Help... Blank frame

Alright I found a really good deal on an r6. But of course the bike has a blank frame. I already checked it out and it really is a blank frame so no title. It would worry me less if the bike was actually a race bike but it's in street form right now. I was just wondering if anyone else has a bike with a blank frame and if you've had any trouble from organizations while riding at tracks or racing it.

Thanks

 

I have one. Totally legit blank frame. No issues with either WERA or CCS, just had to list that the bike was "race only" when it ask for a VIN. I have also ridden with STT, Midwest Trackday, and MotoVid, none of them have had any issues with it.

 

Alright thanks. I've just heard stories about cops coming and confiscating bikes that didn't have a vin number. I'd hate for that to happen after I dump a bunch of money into it.

 

I had a 1998 R1 Unstamped Frame.... They were sold back in the day for $900 or so..... Cant speak for the R6's

 

You can order any frame from Yamaha with a blank vin stamp. But if it's a street bike they could of had the vin stamped by sending in their frame to be destroyed and vin put on the new frame. Somethings not right in the scenario. It wouldn't make me too comfortable. I would run the motor number and see. If it comes back clean run it. No vin doesn't matter.

 

Yeah I called Yamaha about this. They said to call local cops and check the motor number. Going back to it tomorrow and I'm gonna do that. And if it's clean I'll probably get it.

 

The seller doesn't know very much about bikes, nor is he mechanically inclined enough to find the motor number himself. So makes it where I'll have to go back and do that myself.

 

Seems like if it is in 'street form', it would be registered somehow and should have a title. I built a bike some time ago with aftermarket cases and frame. Both the frame and cases were stamped - I submitted all paperwork to DMV and got a 'special construction' title. DMV then provided a new vin plate (which was a different number than either the frame or cases) to a local shop, they riveted in on and I was good to go. Absent any of that, I'd be a bit leery and run the numbers before buying it.

 

There are legit blank frames out there from sponsored race teams. I have several.

 

This. There are such things are truly blank frames, and I've seen a handful in the AMA paddock.

 

I've done two. Unstamped frames purchased direct from Yamaha. It's possible.

 

We had a few.. You just buy a frame... Since it isn't a complete bike there is No VIN and No Paperwork other than the receipt.

 

No. Typical invoice like I would get when I ordered any other part from them. I gave the customers all the associated paperwork that provided him with a paper trail for the frame from Yamaha to me and from me to them and they've been racing it for a few seasons. They asked if it was a replacement frame and if I wanted a VIN stamped and I declined. It was basically a bike built frame up with spare parts.

I have no idea how you'd ever go about getting a title or whatever for it and the OP was referencing the fact that it was a street bike. No idea there. But, for a race bike, it's definitely possible.

 

I have worked at a Yamaha dealer and sold several blank frames from Yamaha. they don't ask for any paperwork or the old frame back. it comes with no paper work its just like any other part you would order. I actually worked very close with p1a when they were building there bikes and they ordered a frame they got a invoice just like they would if they had bought a spark plug.

 

As far as the engine number goes, not all states keep records of engine numbers. I bought a used engine in Michigan once, went to the local police with the engine number, and they told me engine number records were not tracked/recorded.