Marine Women in Combat

How was the test skewed? I did not see any examples of that in the article. Did I miss that?

 

One standard and anyone who meets this standard can play. Seems pretty straight forward and common sense to me but some people struggle with the concept.

 

According to the article, the women had to pass the minimum male score on the PFT. So, they did have to meet the minimum male PFT, I'm not sure of any additional PFT or school requirements. So, I do not understand how the women were placed at a disadvantage.

What this does tell me, is that the women selected were in the upper percentile of women physically. If we are talking about this across the board, is that truly representative of women we would send into combat as infantry? If this is the precursor for more elite forces with higher physical and mental standards then it does not look good for female integration. After all, the attrition rate for some of these types of units is over 50% for some very physically fit mofo's. Guys who excel in infantry and other communities.

 

great article from guys who have seen more shit and know more about it from the inside.

http://www.oafnation.com/hitter-feed/2015/8/21/sorry-women-in-combat-units-is-still-a-bad-idea-sorry

 

If I had to go into combat I think I'll go in the all male squad...

http://qz.com/499618/the-us-marines...es-and-the-men-came-out-ahead/?utm_source=YPL

 

Queer.

 

the article mentions a failure of experimental design: "The tests come with at least one important caveat: As the Marine Corps Times notes, many of of the male study participants had previously served in combat units, whereas female participants, by necessity, came directly from infantry schools or from noncombat jobs."

it'll be interesting to see whether the Marines look to get an exception to the integration mandate.

 

If it means anything, men who meet the bare minimum PT standards are not going to handle combat very well. For a woman to just make the minimum standards that a man must meet means nothing to me other than she can do the minimum of a man.

We had two women on our SRT, both had to meet the same physical standards as the men, which included body dragging 225 lbs 60 feet (heaviest member on the team with gear). Building entry and CQB is a different animal than sustained combat operations. Of the two women on the team, there was only one who I would go to combat with.

 

Dead man.... I think I'd rather have guys fighting alongside me than women. Getting laid can happen while on R & R after the firefight...

 

Damn, another loss in the war on women!
Maybe that guy bringing his wife along to massacre folks at work changed some minds?

In historic decision, Pentagon chief opens all jobs in combat units to women

 

Since it's been shown that a group of women, when living together long enough, will tend to have their periods at the same time, I still say that a combat Division of women, during their prime time, would/could defeat any standing army on the face of this planet within fifteen minutes.

Girls of the PMS Division, go get em.
(I am in so much trouble.)

 

I know that women are capable of many great things (and are the equal of men in every way other than biology). However, putting women in jobs that they physically cannot do (Special Forces, SEALS, MARSOC, Ranger Battalion), is an absolute disaster and serves no purpose other than destroying the best collection of Special Operation units in the world. People who think otherwise may be well intentioned, but have no idea what is involved to operate in one of these units.

 

+1 Those that meet the minimum standards do not even come close to getting in an elite unit...

 

The Commandant of the Marine Corps came out with a brief statement yesterday saying that he will fully support integration and start it immediately but will not lower standards to reduce our effectiveness.

 

Does anyone seriously believe that the forces behind this will settle for no successful candidates?
Accommodations will be made; they always are.

 

Yeah but the women will end up in the company office or as a supply clerk as to not reduce effectiveness should someone "make it"