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Old 12-30-2006, 06:30 PM
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This is important...

In cased you missed it here:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=27852

You can really see it here:
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=128231

As an industry and a community we should not allow "manufactures" to blatantly steal other companies ideas and then prosper from it. Charlie VanValkenburgh and Pit Bull represents the very core of our sport. A racer who loved the sport so much that he quit his career as a rocket scientist to fill a void that the racing community needed....A race stand that held up to the riggers of real use. He built his company making the best products he could and then supporting his customers the best way he knows how. From that humble beginning he has grown his company to include more products like dampers, spools and tire tree's. All of the Pit Bull products carry the same incredibly high level of quality, durability, and engineering. The best part....Charlie and Pit Bull still offer the same customer service that they did in the beginning and even more racer support..

This incredible supporter our sport is getting ripped off in front our very eyes and we as a community are letting it happen. I am asking that all of us step up and defend the supporters, creators, and innovators in this sport by not letting the copy cat companies prosper. I am asking that as members of this wonderful community of motorcycle roadracers that we support the companies that support us. We support the companies that create better products for us to use. Buy the original, buy the product from the guy who actually designed it and built with his own two hands instead of the guy who bought a product and then shipped it to China to be copied and made cheaper.

Competition is good, it is what this sport is based on and it improves the products we use. Imports are good, it keeps pricing realistic in an already ultra expensive sport. Blatant theft of ideas and design is bad and if we let it happen it will eventually ruin our sport.

I believe in Pit Bulls products and I believe they are worth every penny that Pit Bull charges. They are made in the USA by US workers and a good portion of the money that Charlie makes on the stuff he sells he give back to racers in the form of contingency.

In an effort to do our part in helping Pit Bull, KWS Motorsports will match the other companies price on it's blatant copy of Pit Bulls Tire Tree's. Of course I would encourage you to buy the product straight from Pit Bull at retail, but if we can do our small part in keeping people from buying copy cat products based purely on price the this what we will do. I don't know how long we can afford to do it and I don't know how long we will need to do it, but this is what we are going to do.

Thank you all for loving this sport as much as I do and please do whats right.

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Old 12-30-2006, 06:32 PM
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Old 12-30-2006, 06:33 PM
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All of my stands are Pitbull,and I have them for the above stated reasons.I won't use anything else.

This re-enforces what I always say to those who are thinking of going to market with an "invention"-Better get the best patent lawyer you can find.Money should never be an object in these scenarios.Just ask Floyd Rose.

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Old 12-30-2006, 06:41 PM
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ditto!

very nice people to work with, i called to use contingency, without a problem. great quality and fast shipping. i didn't know they had so many other products

i'll call next week and pick up a tire tree, after seeing rugby mook looking so cool with his at mid ohio i new i had to have one!

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Old 12-30-2006, 07:05 PM
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I tried using other stuff, honestly I did, but I always ended up back at PitBull. Good quality and good price. I can take a 3 year old PitBull stand and sell it back to the community for almost as much as I bought it for. Its the Mercedes of stands. But in all fairness Powerstands is making it interesting for Pitbull.
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In cased you missed it here:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=27852

You can really see it here:
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=128231

As an industry and a community we should not allow "manufactures" to blatantly steal other companies ideas and then prosper from it. Charlie VanValkenburgh and Pit Bull represents the very core of our sport. A racer who loved the sport so much that he quit his career as a rocket scientist to fill a void that the racing community needed....A race stand that held up to the riggers of real use. He built his company making the best products he could and then supporting his customers the best way he knows how. From that humble beginning he has grown his company to include more products like dampers, spools and tire tree's. All of the Pit Bull products carry the same incredibly high level of quality, durability, and engineering. The best part....Charlie and Pit Bull still offer the same customer service that they did in the beginning and even more racer support..

This incredible supporter our sport is getting ripped off in front our very eyes and we as a community are letting it happen. I am asking that all of us step up and defend the supporters, creators, and innovators in this sport by not letting the copy cat companies prosper. I am asking that as members of this wonderful community of motorcycle roadracers that we support the companies that support us. We support the companies that create better products for us to use. Buy the original, buy the product from the guy who actually designed it and built with his own two hands instead of the guy who bought a product and then shipped it to China to be copied and made cheaper.

Competition is good, it is what this sport is based on and it improves the products we use. Imports are good, it keeps pricing realistic in an already ultra expensive sport. Blatant theft of ideas and design is bad and if we let it happen it will eventually ruin our sport.

I believe in Pit Bulls products and I believe they are worth every penny that Pit Bull charges. They are made in the USA by US workers and a good portion of the money that Charlie makes on the stuff he sells he give back to racers in the form of contingency.

In an effort to do our part in helping Pit Bull, KWS Motorsports will match the other companies price on it's blatant copy of Pit Bulls Tire Tree's. Of course I would encourage you to buy the product straight from Pit Bull at retail, but if we can do our small part in keeping people from buying copy cat products based purely on price the this what we will do. I don't know how long we can afford to do it and I don't know how long we will need to do it, but this is what we are going to do.

Thank you all for loving this sport as much as I do and please do whats right.

We are commited to telling the nearly 20,000 riders that will ride with us under the STT umbrella this year to all buy Pit Bull stands. THAT's way cool!!
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Old 12-30-2006, 10:41 PM
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i need to order new stands for the shop.PB gold and red baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:03 PM
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LOL, I swear sometimes we are related Chip, then I remember you would fit in my boot.

I posted that link on several forums along with similar, but far less expansive comments.

I think I'll be quoting your post here in those same threads. If that's ok with you...
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:15 PM
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That reminds me. I need to run by Cycle Gear tomorrow and get a Pit Bull rear stand for the EX!
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:41 PM
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LOL, I swear sometimes we are related Chip, then I remember you would fit in my boot.

I posted that link on several forums along with similar, but far less expansive comments.

I think I'll be quoting your post here in those same threads. If that's ok with you...
Yes....spread the word and educate the masses....

I think the vast majority of people would not buy a copied product if they knew it was copied. Let em know.

Pit Bull doesn't have to spend tons of cash and years in court if the we as a community just stop buying copied products.
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Old 12-31-2006, 03:18 AM
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In an effort to do our part in helping Pit Bull, KWS Motorsports will match the other companies price on it's blatant copy of Pit Bulls Tire Tree's. Of course I would encourage you to buy the product straight from Pit Bull at retail, but if we can do our small part in keeping people from buying copy cat products based purely on price the this what we will do. I don't know how long we can afford to do it and I don't know how long we will need to do it, but this is what we are going to do.
You're losing money doing this?
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:56 AM
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Pit Bull quality without question. Charlie and company are easy to work with and support racing with a passion. Knock out the knock offs!
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Old 12-31-2006, 07:16 AM
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Old 12-31-2006, 08:51 AM
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I've posted this also. I just have to say thanks to Charlie, Kathy and company.
I bought a 650R near Birmingham, last week. On my way to Chicago, [for Christmas] I stopped by Pit Bull, so they could measure the bike, for some custom stands. I got here early, as not to disrupt thier company Christmas party. Well, I was not allowed to leave, until I was very well feed.
I have done the same as Chip in the past. Not losing money, but breaking even, just so a customer would not by those shit knock offs.
As has been stated, Pit Bull is a huge part of the WERA family
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Old 12-31-2006, 08:54 AM
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:08 AM
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I'll continue to use Pit Bull and tell everyone I know to do the same. As mentioned, Charlie is a class act. They offer contingency, top-notch support and their products are second to none (as shown by Vortex and Powerstands copying them).

Vortex and Powerstands.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:48 AM
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The first stand I ever purchased was an LP. The second stand was a Pit Bull. The next three stands were all Pit Bull's as well. I can get stands from sponsors for much less than the cost of a Pit Bull, yet I still go down to my local shop and pay full retail for a Pit Bull. I would rather spend an extra $40 and get something that will probably last me forever, than save that money and buy something that doesn't work as well and won't last as long.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:59 AM
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pit bull all the way here, would not even consider any other brand, now if wife would let me buy those service stands.......droooool
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Old 12-31-2006, 11:26 AM
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Good deal My First stand was a Pit Bull, then to 'save money' I bought a Handy tree stand and it cracked with less than a month of use. Luckily I learn my lessons quickly.
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