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Best motor for hybrid project

Discussion in 'General' started by Thumper, Apr 3, 2006.

  1. Thumper

    Thumper Saved by Grace

    No, not an electric/gas power bike. I’m talking about putting a single cylinder motor in my FZR400 chassis. I’m in no hurry because the 400 motor is running great but nothing lasts forever. My racing fund is rather small so buying a new SV (or even a used SV) is out of my range. I’m looking and planning ahead so I won’t have to send a couple of years without a race bike when the 400 motor enters retirement. The 400 is stock right now and if the single cylinder idea proves to be a flop I’ll give the 400 a major overhaul. I’m looking for more competitive classes so building a fire breathing 400 takes it out of one class and makes it somewhat competitive in the others. A single cylinder motor would be allowed in all the 400 classes plus about 3 more competitively. The 400’s best hope is V6LW where a single would have high hopes in Clubman, LW twins and V4/V5 plus a fighting chance in the 400’s classes. Here is what I’m considering so far:

    500cc 2-stroke single
    Light, cheap, plenty of donor bikes, easy to rebuild, very
    simple, WAY strong,
    but two-stroke fragile

    450cc 4-stroke
    Light, performance parts-o-plenty, good power, 4 stroke reliability,
    But not cheap, not as reliable as 650

    650cc 4-stroke
    Plenty of donor bikes, cheap, very reliable, plenty strong,
    But heavy, not as strong as other options

    250cc 2-stroke
    Very plentiful donor bikes and performance parts, extreme light
    weight, strong for its size, cheapest of options
    But 2- stroke fragile, not as powerful as 500.

    I know the TZ250 would be a better frame option but I have VERY limited funds so I need to use what I’ve got if I can. Any ideas and advice will be appreciated. The 400 has a clean title and I have it set up for quick street/track conversion if anyone is interested in a trade for a TZ250/hybrid that is well set up. Thanks in advance and I hope to see you at the track soon.
     
  2. (diet)DrThunder

    (diet)DrThunder Why so serious, son?

    I know this isn't; what you're asking, but Speedwerks makes a bolt-in kit for you to install an EX motor in that frame...might be something to think about.
     
  3. ducnut748

    ducnut748 King of Speed

    hey

    you need to just buy my FZR400/ascott single, it has 17 inch wheels from a gixer 750, front forks from the same, VR100O Tailsection, ducati exhaust, f3 tank, nice air tech body work....
     
  4. Greg Gabis

    Greg Gabis Slow Traffic

    The big two stroke motors are fun but require a lot of attention. Your best bet is a big 4-stroke single.

    How about an SRX motor. ;)
     
  5. honcati

    honcati Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a fun project. Good luck!
    XR650R engine would be nice but sounds like you can race in more classes with SRX/XT or XR600 air cooled engine.
    How about swapping the engine between races? hahah just kidding.
     
  6. 83BSA

    83BSA Well-Known Member

    XR650R.
    Bullet proof, loads of torque, plenty of performance parts available from the desert/Baja racers, very tunable, been around a long time, more reliable than the higher strung KTM big bores.

    or

    If you really want a challenge, a BSA B50 bored to 88 mm, Ti rod, high comp piston, lightened flywheels, 1-7/8" exhaust, 40 mm carb. Air cooled push rod, 1930's design, British manufacturing . . . at least it's light in weight . . . . I just happen to have several available.
     
  7. Thumper

    Thumper Saved by Grace

    Ducnut748,
    What are you wanting for the FZR/Ascot? It would be nice to keep my FZR for street/spares use. Where are you? I'm in Ozark, AL. I would love to see any pics you have of it. Thanks.

    Greg Gabis,
    Would that be my old SRX? I sure do miss that bike.

    Thanks for the input. The lighter weight and power of the 500 is pertty tempting but I probably should be looking for a 650R or SRX motor.
     
  8. Thumper

    Thumper Saved by Grace

    I'm hoping for a single due to the "unlimited singles" part of the rule in several classes. The EX motor can be made to haul major booty so it is now also an option.
     
  9. owndjoo

    owndjoo muthapucka

    i'd say a 450 all day. gobs of power and bullet proof. plus with the dirtbike/supermoto stuff there are tons of parts. you could even go with an older 426 yamaha if $$ is a big factor.
     
  10. ducnut748

    ducnut748 King of Speed

     
  11. Thumper

    Thumper Saved by Grace

    Please send pics to [email protected] . What is the motor HP and mods? Still in running condition? I'll start sweet talking the boss lady.
     
  12. Wade Parish

    Wade Parish North Central Hawker

    Since we's on the subject, anybody interested in a Hawk frame that's been customized to hold an XR650 motor?
     
  13. E=MC2

    E=MC2 Well-Known Member

    get a CR500 motor, it'll have the most power, it'll be easy to work on and pretty cheap. AND IT'S A 2-STROKE!!
     
  14. Thumper

    Thumper Saved by Grace


    How much bike for how much $$? Pics?
     
  15. Hawk518

    Hawk518 Resident Alien

    How much?
     
  16. Wade Parish

    Wade Parish North Central Hawker

    Well, I don't have a price or pics yet. Sorry. I guess I really shoulda kept my mouth shut until I had more specifics. I'll try to get it all together this weekend and post some pics.

    It's not in mint condition, but it's kinda cool. They made a steel "cradle" that attaches to the frame and helps hold the engine, and they made the frame the oil reserve by closing up all the original holes and putting a filler cap up near the steer tube.
     
  17. bax504

    bax504 Well-Known Member

    Supermono bike

    I still have my Supermono bike for sale or trade. A 1988 TZ chasis with a 91USD TZ front end. A 93 XR628 motor. Alot of of work done. Somebody take this thing off of my hands. Bike is located in Leeds, Alabama. Email for pictures. Thanks, DARRYL:beer:
     
  18. Thumper

    Thumper Saved by Grace

    Please send pics and price to [email protected]
     
  19. weggie man

    weggie man Well-Known Member

    600 Rotax........... or KX500 two smoker.
     
  20. ValuCycle

    ValuCycle Well-Known Member

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