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Zika, wtf?

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by In Your Corner, Aug 9, 2016.

  1. Kurlon

    Kurlon Well-Known Member

    If HIV goes insect borne you can bet the ban on DDT will disappear very shortly after.
     
  2. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    If mosquitoes transmitted it, there would be enough cases of HIV-positive children with HIV-negative mothers to keep it from being a secret for very long.
     
  3. motorkas

    motorkas Well-Known Member

    Asked my scientist better half this question and this is what she sent back.


    Why Can't Mosquitoes Transmit HIV?




    Currently, I am reading a fabulous book by Bill Bryson entitled A Short History of Nearly Everything. It covers a wide range of scientific

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    topics from the Big Bang to the microbes dwelling in the human body. However, one passage really caught my attention: Bryson noted how HIV, the agent behind the AIDS disease, is not transmissible by mosquitoes (page 312). This fact caught me off guard. I had always known that HIV is not spread by mosquitoes but had never questioned why.


    Mosquitoes are carriers for several infamous viruses, most notably malaria and dengue fever. In fact, mosquitoes, through mosquito borne diseases, kill more people per year than any other animal. Luckily for humans, the HIV virus is not carried or spread by mosquitoes. Several reasons account for the inability of mosquitoes to transmit HIV.





    1. Mosquitoes' Blood-Sucking Mechanism

    As Professor Wayne Crans of Rutgers University so nicely puts it "mosquitoes are not flying hypodermic needles." The "snout" of a mosquito, the part that looks like a needle, is actually composed of six mouthparts. Four of these are used to pierce the skin of the person or animal that the mosquito is biting. The other two parts are composed of two tubes. One of the tubes sends saliva into the host and the other sends blood up to the mosquito. This two tube system is one reason why mosquitoes are unable to transmit HIV. Only saliva is injected into humans when a mosquito bites and thus HIV positive blood that a mosquito may have previously ingested is never transmitted to other humans.



    2. The HIV virus gets digested in the mosquito's gut

    Unlike mosquito borne diseases, HIV is unable to replicate within the mosquito's gut and therefore is broken down. In humans, HIV binds to T cells and begins replicating. No T cells exist inside the mosquito's gut and so the virus has no way of replicating or migrating to the mosquito's salivary glands. HIV particles are therefore digested by the mosquito alongside the actual blood meal. During the digestion process, the HIV particles are "completely destroyed."



    3. HIV circulates at low levels in human blood

    In order for mosquito-borne diseases to be spread from person to person, the associated virus needs to circulate within the host's blood at sufficient levels. HIV circulates in human blood at a far lower level than would be necessary to create a new infection. If a mosquito were to inject HIV positive blood into a human (which, as evidenced by reasons 1 and 2, is not possible), then it would take a whopping ten millionmosquito bites to transmit one unit of HIV. By comparison, people who are HIV positive generally carry no more than ten units of HIV. Accidentally swallowing a mosquito or squashing one cannot lead to HIV infection either. In these situations the mosquito once again carries an insufficient amount of HIV positive blood to cause a new infection.







    Sources:

    Scientific American. "If a used needle can transmit HIV, why can't a mosquito?" Scientific American. June 4, 2001.



    Crans, W. "Why Mosquitoes Cannot Transmit AIDS." Rutgers University. April 2006.



    Yong, E. "Here's What Happens Inside You When a Mosquito Bites." National Geographic. August 6, 2013.



    Department of Epidemiology, School of Public Health, University of Alabama. Can we get AIDS from mosquito bites? The Journal of the Louisiana State Medical Society 151, 429-33 (1999).
     
  4. In Your Corner

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  5. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    Zika virus...sexually transmitted. How hammered do you have to be to take a mosquito home and have sex with it?
     
  6. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    That much.
     
  7. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    So with regards to what was posted on the first page.....what's the possibility that this whole Zika business is a false flag for a larger hidden agenda?

    More human population reduction measures perhaps?
     
  8. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    We're a few billion over the people limit. A couple million bug bites ain't gonna fix it. We need a pandemic outbreak of death. Preferably targeting the stupid, ignorant and politically aspiring. In another word, war. Pure, unadulterated bloodshed. No quarter, no prisoners, no earthly boundaries. Winner take all.
    Pick your side, us or them. :D
     
  9. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    Well yeah, not in and of itself....but I'm thinking more cumulatively alongside the combined efforts of other things that could knock off a few million at a time. Global worldwide war seems like less of an actuality these days logistically/politically speaking unless all the major powers become unhinged simultaneously.....


    ....actually, considering the quality of leaders that are being hoisted into power around the world (and soon to be ours as well) maybe that's more of an actuality than I give it credit for.
     
  10. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    now the Zika spray is killing Bee's by the millions.
     
  11. blkduc

    blkduc no time for jibba jabba

    I have nothing to add here. I'm just posting to see if I turn into Metalhead.

    EDIT: Nope, guess I don't have Metalhead virus!
     
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  12. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Lucky for you
     
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  13. blkduc

    blkduc no time for jibba jabba

    Hey what the eff? You quoted me and now you're MR. T? I'm not quoting anyone then.
     
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  14. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    my duc 's got the zeeekaaah
     
  15. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    Don't fuck it.
     

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