WTB Krämer HKR EVO2 R

I'm an "older guy" with both a MT07 (superbike-build) and an Evo2R, and I agree with both Gino and Billy. The Kramer is a sharper tool than the lightweight twins; it stops and turns better, and the feedback is superior to what I get with the 07. Its also a little bit quicker out of the corners but from about 90 mph up, my 07 is stronger (with a bit over 90 rwhp). The Kramer is less physically demanding to ride and, overall, less work to keep running with its stock motor. Tires last longer too, and I can confirm the Kramer crashes better. I raced a '95 TZ250 for a few years, years ago, and the Kramer is a larger, more comfortable, more reliable, and easier to ride reasonably fast version of a proper purpose-built race bike.

 

RS660 makes 90 something horsepower and weighs 400 lbs. You can get it to 370 lbs if you strip away a ton of stuff. Maybe.

Kramer EVO2 is 100 lbs lighter @ 80 hp.
Kramer GP2 is 50 lbs lighter @130 hp.

And that's before you get to the horse crap stock suspension and other low grade $12k price point components that will need swapped out on the RS660. Wheels, suspension, brakes, pipe and tune and race body work and you are at +$10k already on an RS660 and still limited on power to weight.

I wish people will stop comparing cheap ass street bikes that need tons of cash and labor to race prep, to Kramers.

 

After racing my 790 duke I want a Kramer badly.... I can only imagine how great of a ride it is.

 

This is what appealed to me about the Kramer. It's 100% ready to race bone stock.

 

Amen. I love my Kramer (EVO2) for all those reasons. Plus, they're designed with crashing in mind. I've seen a couple tumble, including one I endurance raced, with just superficial damage. We still won our class despite the crash. I think it was a broken lever and footpeg were all that needed replacing.

However, a slight clarification: The GP2's hp figure is at the crankshaft. When I had a stock GP2 on the dyno, it made about 114hp to the wheel. Which makes sense when you account for approximately 10% parasitic loss from crank to wheel.

 

I’ll second the xlnt survivors of low-sides and typically still race-able afterwards …and you certainly can’t always say that…even about race-bikes

 

Kramer my ass!

 

And Joes Kramer team wins the overall against all sized bikes in our 5-hour endurance race last weekend..

 

Are there new Kramers still in production? I would guess they are special order with a long lead time if so.

 

They're still being built. I'm the second owner of a '21 Evo2R. It was delivered in November '21; dunno when it was ordered.

 

Yes, Kramer USA should be receiving another shipment soon. I believe they received a pretty sizable order in August as well.