Kind of both. Wilder is no Floyd Mayweather, but is more accurate than he should be with that style, and Fury is that good. There has never been a heavyweight close to his size who moves that well. He's a very special technical boxer.
One thing no one is talking about is that last night was hands down the best performance of Wilder's career. He actually looked like a boxer a few times. Fury looked way better than I expected as well. He wasn't as clean as he was in the Klitchko fight, but didn't fight like a guy who had that long a layoff. Heavyweight has been a little lame since Fury beat Klitchko . In a big way this fight reinvigorated the division.
No doubt. All of the fights were pretty good. Disappointed in how Ortiz sandbagged an obviously outmatched opponent. Not sure what the point of that was.
OK, that adds a whole new level of clarity to boxing that I never had before. Thanks. I actually thought they were counting punches! Maybe a dumb question but what's the point of Wilder fighting at 20 kg less than Fury if it doesn't help them move as well? If his whole deal is landing a killer punch, wouldn't he be to his advantage to get bigger? (I'm working under the assumption that Americans pile on weight at will, which I never could do. )
He's been heavier in the past, as much as 230 if memory serves. He just seems to move better at a lighter weight. Wilder could pretty easily cut to the cruiserweight limit of 200, but there's not a lot of competition there, thus not a lot of money. The next step down from there is light heavyweight at 175. There's a point of diminishing return in terms of weight for fighters. Even in the UFC, the last handful of champions have been around 245, 20 lbs under the 265 limit. I think Lesnar was the last guy to hit the limit. Frank Mir was big too, but I don't think he had to cut weight.
THIS I am a Wilder fan but at best give him the two rounds 10-8. But hey, they set themselves up for a nice rematch.
Seems Fury's camp is still raising hell about the outcome. Meh. I've seen far far worse decisions. This doesn't even rate among them.
I didn’t think so initially, but I rewatched it last night with the volume off. No commentary or crowd. I had it 114-110 for Fury, and I was being charitable giving Wilder the 7th. Maybe 115-109 really. I can’t conceive a way to score it that would give the fight to Wilder. If you didn’t understand Fury’s style of fighting off his heels, you could argue ring control or activity in the 1st and 6th round, making it even. The problem is that even in those rounds, he was landing more punches and not getting hit.
That was my thoughts as well on the fight. Looking at the punch numbers, even with 2 10-8 rounds there is no way he won that fight. After the last round knock down he hit wilder with a punch that had him pumping the brakes. Good fight either way.
I had been waiting for this fight for a year. Fury weighed 400 lbs exactly 1 year ago. I can't stand Wilder for his attitude and bling blingyness but he is the greatest HW the states has had in a while. I started watching Fury a few years ago and he is a straight up boxer. Pure boxer. This fight was technical vs ko puncher. Fury looked like Keanu Reeves in the Matrix dodging those punches. He embarrassed Wilder but got caught twice and got up. No one has done that. Tyson got robbed. Wilder got two 10-8 rounds. Do the math. I was shocked they called it a draw. Teddy agrees.... I'm ready to see Anthony Joshua fight both of them.
That Teddy Atlas clip is being misrepresented. That rant was maybe 5 years ago after the Oscar Escandon/Tison Cage fight. Cave clearly won the fight in dominant fashion and they gave it to Escandon. It was orders of magnitude worse than what happened saturday night. Not even close. Plus, Tyson Fury could eat them both in one sitting.
