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Why Iowa?

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Past Glory, Jan 8, 2016.

  1. Past Glory

    Past Glory I still have several AVON calendars from the 90's

    What is the reasoning behind Iowa as the opening Presidential primary? If so much emphasis is going to be placed on the first round, why not at least have it in a large population State that has a broad population demographic and more issues than ethanol production?
    At the very least, rotate the opener to a different State each time rather than a guarantee that only the most Lily White area in the nation always gets the first say?
     
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  2. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Caucus

    NH is the first primary.
     
  3. rd400racer

    rd400racer Well-Known Member

  4. Past Glory

    Past Glory I still have several AVON calendars from the 90's

    Right, thanks. And as far as population demographic goes, NH isn't any better a "representation" of the US as a whole.
     
  5. Past Glory

    Past Glory I still have several AVON calendars from the 90's

    Good article. The thing that irritates me so much about this is how all the candidates have to grovel before the corn growers. While I had disagreements with John McCains political viewpoints and platform, his willingness to tell Iowa that ethanol was not worth supporting were the finest words I ever heard spoken to those people.
     
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  6. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    but but... then how would conservative white people get their government handouts while still being able to demonize inner city welfare recipients if they got rid of ethanol? think of the children... won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!!!
     
  7. GRH

    GRH Well-Known Member

    I agree this pandering and subsidization of ethanol to farmers has been long overdue to shut down with oil at $35 bbl. There may have been a business case when oil was at $140 but at this point keeping ethanol alive seems to be purely political.
     
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  8. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    Suck it. :D
     
  9. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member

  10. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    You think?
     
  11. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Why is that a necessity or even a good thing?

    The big advantage here is that the voters actually get to talk to the candidates. We don't have to rely on ads or seeing someone from afar. If you want to size up a candidate, you can go and talk to them.
    Try that in NYC, a place that includes a wide variation in peoples.
    There, you get to see an ad on the subway. Try asking that ad a specific question.
     
  12. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    Didn't some states try to advance their primaries only to have Iowa advance theirs? What would be wrong with all primaries being on the same day, same as the elections?
     
  13. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    You're thinking of NH.
    NH state law requires NH to be the first primary, and it has been adjusted forward in recent elections to achieve that.
    It's Feb 9 this year.
     
  14. Past Glory

    Past Glory I still have several AVON calendars from the 90's

    Given the length of the Presidential election cycle now, people of ALL States could have the chance to actually talk to the candidates. But I see your point, we can't just allow "Those People" the chance for a face to face. The poor, downtrodden White man has been taking it on the chin for far too long and just never gets a chance to have his voice heard.
     
  15. Steak Travis

    Steak Travis Well-Known Member

    dan carlin has a good pod cast on the primaries and caucus strategery
     
  16. GRH

    GRH Well-Known Member

    What do you mean "you people"?
     
  17. britx303

    britx303 Boomstick Butcher…..

    I spent a little time in Des Moines in early '96. Thats a really weird state. You couldnt pay me enough to go back there for anything. Sorry off the political track.....carry on:rolleyes:
     
  18. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    We actually do have black people here, and they are politically active, if that's your concern.
    A large percentage are not even African-American, just African.
    But, as usual, you missed the whole point in your effort to play your racism card.
    Perhaps people in other states should provide the same opportunity to talk to people face to face.
    If that isn't the case where you live, whose fault is that?
     
  19. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Bush's.

    Duh.
     
  20. Pepsi Drinker

    Pepsi Drinker Well-Known Member

    You only get to talk to them if you pay them money.......... I mean extortion fees, then god forbid you disagree. Oops look at the time, no more of it for you.
     

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