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What gauge safety wire?

Discussion in 'Tech' started by 976-FIZR, Jan 16, 2005.

  1. 976-FIZR

    976-FIZR In transition...

    Title says it all, what gauge safety wire should be used on race bikes, or do the thicknesses vary depending on how often something is R/R (e.g. - more often used, thinner wire, less often used, thicker wire)?

    -Wish
     
  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I go with the thicker and then replace it all every off season no matter what. Can't see much use for the thin stuff, doesn't make sense to use it.
     
  3. beathiswon

    beathiswon Well-Known Member

    I prefer to use the thinner stuff like .025 or around that size. It's much easier to work with. Fits through the little holes and bends easier. Makes no difference that I can see if the wire is thick or thin as to whether it's better when taken off frequently or not.
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2005
  4. Brian129

    Brian129 Too many projects

    are you guys saying to reuse the stuff after you take something off?

    when i stripped my bike down most6 of the way, i just cut all the safety wire off, and replaced it. but are you saying to just unwind the partt you need access to then put it back?
     
  5. Putter

    Putter Ain't too proud to beg

    Brian, just rewire the bolt after you take it off. Safety wire is cheap.
     
  6. beathiswon

    beathiswon Well-Known Member

    No don't reuse it. Like above said it's cheap!!!
     
  7. Brian129

    Brian129 Too many projects

    yeah thats what i thought, i have two rolls of it already, was just wondering if thats what they were talking about doing, seemed odd to me.
     
  8. Putter

    Putter Ain't too proud to beg

    Brian, just a bit of advice. If you are bored, rewire your whole bike. It will give you plenty of practice for when it's third call to grid and you need to rewire the caliper bolts or something.

    Plus, once you learn to work the pliers, it's kinda fun.
     
  9. brian126

    brian126 Well-Known Member

    You have a lifetime supply. :p
     
  10. stickboy274

    stickboy274 Stick-a-licious Tire Dude

    That depends on how long you do this and if you have rain tires.


    I've been through several rolls.
     
  11. Brian129

    Brian129 Too many projects

    yeah already rewired it for the first track day, when it comes back it will get torn down again, then i will have to rewire!!!

    i actually am not to bad with thhem, we used some on the old racecar, so i have some expirience. yeah they are kinda fun, you can play with how tight the winding is andhow much slack it has, it is cool. i did my whole bike over in about a half hour. though while on the subject, what all should be wired? all the oil stuff, radiator cap, calipers, front wheel pinch bolts, anything else.
     
  12. kmfegan

    kmfegan Well-Known Member

    I do not understand your comment about not seeing much use for the thin stuff.

    If everything is done correctly, the safety wire is just along for the ride. It is not like you are suspending a bridge or anything like that with it.

    The AMA requires .025 and that is what I usually use.
     
  13. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    If it comes down to a thin piece of wire making sure something doesn't come loose that will hurt the riders whose bike I prepped or any other rider out there - I'll take the thicker wire thanks. It's not any harder to work with that I've ever noticed and is stronger - so that equals better in my book. If I thought it were a major issue we'd never allow the .025 stuff, but we do so it's personal preference. I also use safety pins on certain items and prefer the heavier gauge for tying them to the bike since it doesn't get replaced as often as straight wiring does.
     
  14. GixxerBlade

    GixxerBlade Oh geez

    Actually if you want to get technical, the small (.020-.025) is supposed to be used only on electrical connections and internal engine bolts to make sure they don't come loose. The heavier stuff (.032-.040) is used for heavier apps like external engine bolts or even tail rotor blade bolts (helos). The small stuff in my opinion can be used, Mongo, because we use it also for safety wiring internal bolts in jet engines. I have never seen a broken piece of safety wire in an engine I have torn down, even after its lifecycle of 2400 hours. It goes through all that extreme heat (740°C), vibration, and stress and not one piece, ever, at all. I use the .020 on my bike, even for the calipers and haven't had probs yet. I think the thinner stuff is easier to get tighter but you are right the thick stuff is probably better.
     
  15. Go with the heavier stuff. Not really worth cutting corners when it comes to wiring. Plus a bit bigger of a hole is eaier to drill.
     
  16. kmfegan

    kmfegan Well-Known Member

    You are not cutting any corners.

    The safetywire is not in shear.
     
  17. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Not when things are working properly no - however it's there for when they aren't. Some applications of safety wire when the part(s) fail will put it in a situation where strength helps, and as I keep saying - it makes me happier to have the extra strength, if you're comfortable without it, that's cool by me.
     
  18. Limey

    Limey Well-Known Member

    Can we use the removable pins on calipers and pinch bolts to make it easier when doing tyre changes?


    Thanks
     
  19. kmfegan

    kmfegan Well-Known Member

    Anyone can use what they want to use, I just felt that there is an implication here that anyone that is not using battery cable for safety wire is doing something half assed.
     
  20. YamRZ350

    YamRZ350 Nicorette Dependent

    Yes.

    You can't use them on oil filters or oil drains though.
     

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