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Victory For Dutch Reagan

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by YamahaRick, Nov 4, 2003.

  1. YamahaRick

    YamahaRick Yamaha Two Stroke Czar

  2. WeaselBob

    WeaselBob Well-Known Member

    Okay, who's gonna be the first to find a way to blame the cancellation on liberal media bias :D
     
  3. thane

    thane Well-Known Member

    It's that damnable reverse psychology they're using, Bob. How are the good Americans ever going to overcome the dastardly hold the libbers have on the media? It's enough to make me cry into my jar of jelly bellys.

    thane
     
  4. Team Atomic

    Team Atomic Go Go SOX!

    I'm sure it must be hilarious, from the trailers I have seen. :D

    Now it has street CRED!!! :D
     
  5. Yamaha Fan

    Yamaha Fan Well-Known Member



    Ok,, now get this, The Liberals are the main stream media, hence the bias, no doubt about it. In general 90% of the journalism majors succumb to the liberal brainwashing at our establishments of higher education....

    As for this “mini series” being pulled.. it is the Right thing to do (pun intended) it was a clearly slanderous portrayal of a great President who is currently unable to defend himself. If the “Right wing” element in this country produced a series about the Clinton’s that approached what was done to Reagan every escort service in DC would have a free security pass to the White House and there would have been lesbian sex parties in the basement bowling alley…. Or wait was that not the case?
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2003
  6. WeaselBob

    WeaselBob Well-Known Member

    Yeah, especially the way the make up statistics. well I guess it's up to you MightyRight ones to set us all straight :Poke:

    this is a bad thing? :D
     
  7. YAM#849

    YAM#849 y'all watch this...

    doh, wrong button
     
  8. Yamaha Fan

    Yamaha Fan Well-Known Member


    "you" MightyRight?

    Cuban cigars are illegal no mater where you store them in the white house...
     
  9. WeaselBob

    WeaselBob Well-Known Member

    yeah but a humidor might have looked cuter
     
  10. thane

    thane Well-Known Member

    Right wing folks are awfully fond of saying that the media is populated by the evil Liberals. However, they fail to recognize alternative, and unwelcome, explanations. How's this one:

    Reporters in the media tend to have the most access to information. They also spend the most time processing information. Furthermore, they are educated to think critically. Maybe they're liberal 'cause they've learned a thing or two more than the average conservative adherent.

    Sure, there's plenty of bright, informed right-wingers in the media-they're all over talk radio and Fox-, but the majority of well-informed, critical thinkers in the media come to agree with the "liberal agenda." Go figure.

    thane
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Flies all green 'n buzzin

    Since the media are in the business of selling advertising space, I'd say the bias is exactly proportionate to the size of the audience they serve. It's just about profit.
     
  12. Yamaha Fan

    Yamaha Fan Well-Known Member

    Liberal Critical THINKERS? Now there’s an oxy-moron. Wake up there mush melon, Critical spinner would be the appropriate and accurate label…
     
  13. Yamaha Fan

    Yamaha Fan Well-Known Member

    Finally a statement by you I can agree with, this is it exactly, rather than reporting the news, it is spun for profit and is NOT reporting..
     
  14. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    The Reagan mini-series was pulled for economic reasons. The advertisers (who pay the bills) were not happy with the product.
    That's the way a free market economy works. The government had nothing to do with pulling the series, it was a business decision. Certainly the Republican party was involved in campaigning against it, but they are a private entity, not a branch of the US government.
    It will still be shown on cable, so it's not as if it will be unavailable.

    From all I've read, this is not a balanced historical account but rather a hatchet job by Barbara Streisand and company. Not surprising when you consider the portrayal of what is normal in America as depicted on TV these days.
     
  15. mtk

    mtk All-Pro Bike Crasher

    No liberal media bias?

    Clinton got 43ish% of the popular vote as I recall. Yet a poll of journalists found that 87% voted for him. So much for being a the same as the rest of America.

    As for the "critical thinking" part, please! "Journalism" and "evaluating data" are mutually exclusive terms.
     
  16. thane

    thane Well-Known Member

    Ok, as evidence for my position that jounalists are taught critical thinking, I offer the following:

    Journalists are taught to write. In the process of writing one must clarify and elucidate one's vague thoughts. For example, when I do my case notes after a session, I usually find that I've come to a better understanding of my thinking. Critical thinking is intrinsic to the nature of writing. Journalists are taught to write. Therefore, journalists are taught to be critical thinkers.

    Wotchugot (in the way of evidence to support your glibbly stated assertion)?

    As for the disparity in the voting patterns of the journalists versus the general population...thank you for supporting my point with empirical data. My assertion was that journalists do a better job of digesting political issues than the average joe. Refer to the earlier post for supporting evidence for that claim.

    thane
     
  17. Yamaha Fan

    Yamaha Fan Well-Known Member


    Then there is human nature, because you are taught something it does not mean you use it…

    The driving force behind EVERYTHING on this earth is incentive, You get what you incentivize bottom line in everything... it virtually defines us.

    It seems that because a journalist is educated in a fashion similar or identical to you that his methods don't change to suit the demands of his profession.

    I don’t care what they teach you about writing, in the end it is irrelevant.

    Modern journalism is much like graphing, how you structure/scale the graph allows you represent or shade the facts in the fairest possible light to your issue or bias….. that is why graphs are so popular… they are just another form of “SPIN” tool
     
  18. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Putting together a logical series of events and critical thinking are in no way the same animal. A critical thinker would have looked at the disparity between percentages of Clinton voters in the general population as opposed to among journalists and concluded further information is needed to assess the signifigance. You just assumed it made your argument. A scientist proves a theory by attempting to disprove it, not by looking for facts that agree with it. You are supposedly one of those critical thinkers, ergo, you just disproved your own argument.

    Journalists are trained by college professors who are overwhelmingly left-wing Democrats. It's not surprising the focus they teach their students to have. That's not critical thinking, it's filtering. When you're a carpenter, everything's a hammer.
     
  19. Robert

    Robert Flies all green 'n buzzin

    No you missed my point entirely! :D:D

    By business, I meant supply & demand in the marketplace determines the amount of media and it's political slant. I don't watch Fox and I'm guessing you don't read the NYTimes. :)

    Maybe it's just that your definition of 'conservative media' is a whole lot narrower than most people's?
     
  20. Yamaha Fan

    Yamaha Fan Well-Known Member

    I get your point, but think the significance is lost to you,,,, All news/journalism has gone to hell in a hand basket when the driving force behind it is profit and not the news itself.. it is “sitcom” mentality, know who/what your audience is and spin the facts to appeal to the broadest segment = ratings and profit…

    My definition of conservative media? Conservative media just like liberal media defines itself, and then there is right wing media..

    How about some “accurate” media… I dislike “spin” in reporting, liberal or conservative

    NY times? no thanks I get my toilet paper on the roll.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2003

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