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Unnecessary Government

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by ryoung57, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    An article on the shutdown got me thinking about all the things the federal government is involved in that it shouldn't be, or things that are just pure waste/graft. Off the top of my head:

    Any manipulation of the economy
    Congressional perks (including their exempt healthcare plans and insanely generous retirement and healthcare)


    keep it going
     
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  2. GRH

    GRH Well-Known Member

    this will be 10 pages
     
  3. turtlecreek

    turtlecreek Well-Known Member

    well, let me help with that....those things would be: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." that they are doing. ok, you can lock the thread now. :flag:
     
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  4. superdino

    superdino Naturally aspirated twin-turbo

    Why is it you can ship 2 tons of heroin into this country no problem, but try and bring a two-stroke motorcycle through customs and everyone loses their mind? Thanks, government.
     
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  5. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    You haven't paid off the right people.
     
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  6. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    :D
     
  7. StaccatoFan

    StaccatoFan My 13 year old is faster than your President

  8. drop

    drop Well-Known Member

    Spending more then 12 years in Washington....
     
  9. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    That is how they get to stay in Washington
     
  10. cav115

    cav115 Well-Known Member

    Title is redundant..:D
     
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  11. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    marriage
     
  12. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking The Iron Price

    All welfare, like social security, etc.?
     
  13. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Tired old BS argument.
     
  14. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking The Iron Price

    What was the argument and who made it?

    [​IMG]
     
  15. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    Yep! Sure!

    I just hit the 50 mark and I've made my plans with zero input from SS. Any dole I get will be gravy.

    Medicare/caid would be nice since health care is absofuckinglutely ridiculous now. Didn't see that coming or I might've actually stayed 20 in the Navy.

    Of course there's always the bail-on-the-US and head for Ecuador option.
     
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  16. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Social security isn't welfare since you pay for it.
    It's insurance that is forced upon you.
    It's not the fault of the captured customers that the insurance company
    sucks at the insurance business and allows the employees to loot
    the operating funds and replace them with IOUs to be paid by the customers.

    You can read the history here: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v70n3/v70n3p1.html
     
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  17. StaccatoFan

    StaccatoFan My 13 year old is faster than your President

    Social Security isn’t welfare. People that collect from it worked and contributed to it through payroll deductions for a minimum of 40 quarters throughout their working years.

    But that being said it needs fixing too. The pyramid club model that funds it isn’t durable enough to survive population fluctuations like we are seeing. It was based on many working to few collecting. Needs to be revamped to resemble the federal employee retirement system. The hard part is phasing the current system out while impacting people’s earned benefit the least. It would be an ice age paced migration but it could be done. Just need some politicians with the balls to do it. Right now with the aged population it is probably political career suicide. Term limits would help that.
     
  18. StaccatoFan

    StaccatoFan My 13 year old is faster than your President

    Fuck I think I almost agreed with IYC!!!!!
     
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  19. superdino

    superdino Naturally aspirated twin-turbo

    But the guvment has been embezzling from social security for decades. Hence, SS is welfare for the guvment.
     
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  20. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    I would guess any SS money you get, by the time youre eligible, will be just enough to pay for "supplemental" coverages that dont come with Medicare. :D
     

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