Trump is a Winning Machine

Trump was never anti-gay like Obama so he didn't need
his viewpoint to evolve.
Trump had the right viewpoint right from the start.

 

I'm going to pretend you guys can read and put this wikipedia list here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_policy_of_Donald_Trump#LGBT_issues

Trump said multiple times that marriage was for man and a woman, he endorsed "traditional marriage" (saying he wants states to decide does not mean he is pro gay marriage, sorry.)

He has rolled back key parts of policy that Obama enacted that protected workers from discrimination from contractors.
He also moved to exclude questions about sexuality and gender identity from the 2020 census. (FYI trying to pretend a demographic does not exist is not "pro gay")

All his judicial appointments are obviously thinly veiled attempts at overturning previously passed rulings on marriage and lgbt rights.

 

I agree with most especially the transgender in the military, any group that has a 40% suicide rate does not need to be in the military as they need help. I had a niece that aspired to join the military but was declined as she was once treated for depression. As for contractors proving they are meeting a regulation is just defining a quota which is wrong. Gay marriages, I don't fuckin care but want the goobermint out of the marriage bidness as long as there is an age of consent. Overturn them all for I care.

 

Obviously

The census is an enumeration of the citizenry. That it's been usurped to play identity politics with should cause everyone offense.

As to the rest of the claptrap, show me where in the constitution the right to marry is found. I'll wait.

Fact is that marriage at the most should be a state issue, and shouldn't be a government issue at all.

 

So - what then, a simple count up of noses but with no categories?

 

Avada Kedavra

 

Yes, but he's British and wouldn't be part of the US census.

 

Do you know the purpose of the census?

 

I'm asking a question, not espousing a position.

"The census is an enumeration of the citizenry. That it's been usurped to play identity politics with should cause everyone offense." Taking that as far as it goes, with the complete elimination of any identity discrimination even to male and female, leads to a simple head count.

Do you know the purpose of the census, once all identity has been scrubbed?

 

Yes. That's what the census is. A head count of citizens used for the apportionment of representatives in congress.

What it's become is a fucking abomination.

 

"I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage."-Obama, 2008

 

Interesting. That opens up a pretty big can of worms, no? How would that work in regards to taxes, other financial issues, death decisions. I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be a .gov issue but if it wasn't, how would those things work. If it was state to state, how would those things work if you moved states?

My bigger question is why is religion a part of "marriage" when it comes to .gov?

 

Treat people as individuals. No benefit or penalty for marriage. Legal guardianship for who can use dependents in their taxes. Get rid of the inheritance tax. Do the rest with legal contracts.

 

So, in reality, it is. Just the paperwork (why do you need a license to get married?) as long as it's between a man and a woman in many places.

 

What are these many places of which you speak? Churches? Probably. City hall...nope. Back yard by a mail order preacher? Nope.

 

All "marriage" is is a one-stop-shop for certain legal obligations and protections. All of which, sans the government issued shit (read: taxes) can be successfully handled through conventional contract law.

That's what "civil partnerships" were--marriage without the word "marriage". All the legal recognitions, none of the ooky queer shit to get the puritans wee-wee'd up.

As to how would anything work without government sanctioned wedlock, why should it? Deal with individuals as individuals, deal with couples as two individuals, and hey, if you're into polyamory, as many individuals as you want. No difference.

Edit: 2blue nailed it.

 

Dems hate his new plan but it's the same way that Canada does their immigration. But when he introduces it their heads explode. This Muh $#kr is so winning. I mean badly. Like beating them badly.