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Treasury Strikes Gold

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by gothicbeast, Mar 1, 2014.

  1. gothicbeast

    gothicbeast Back by court order

  2. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    And?
    They are still two agencies that are used to distort the housing market.
    That distortion was a huge part of the 2008 debacle.
    Are you suggesting that this money, the result of untold foreclosures and who knows how many lives disrupted, is a good thing?
    The populist housing that these agencies were employed by Congress to create has resulted in just the opposite; fewer middle and lower class homeowners and lots of new renters paying their monthly rents to huge corporate owners who acquired the properties with government help and taxpayer supplied money.
    The little people lost big, all under the auspices of the intelligentsia who thought they could outwit capitalism, along with the people who realized that the outcome was going to be a disaster and positioned themselves to pick up the pieces and collect the end prize.
     
  3. XFBO

    XFBO Well-Known Member

    I'm assuming it'll be of the, 'They were worth saving' variety.

    I'd say, yea maybe, or maybe they all do fine when they don't get overly ...wait for it....Liberal with mortgage requirements, the way they did after Clinton loosened them up for people who couldn't qualify otherwise.
     
  4. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    So after 6 years we have broken even finally... better than government motors I guess.
     
  5. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    With a final loss after sale of GM stock at roughly 10 billion, I suppose you are correct.
    That's all it cost us to keep the GM employees in a job.
    $10 billion.
    I can afford that.
    Sure.
    Fuck you GM, and everybody associated with you.
    I will never buy a GM vehicle again.
    Not if you practically give them away.
     
  6. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    That's a pretty shitty return on investment. 1 ~ 2% APR.

    I wish my mortgage was 2%.
     
  7. mfbRSV

    mfbRSV Well-Known Member

  8. gothicbeast

    gothicbeast Back by court order

    Fannie and Freddie also created the 30year mortgage.
    - http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/how-30-year-mortgage-came-be

    It was the getting rid of glass-steagall and allowing Investment banking to return to Commercial banking drove the distortion of the housing market.

    Do you want the "Free Market" to adjust the housing market though foreclosures or do you want government to control the market?

    Explain why home ownership rates have been steadily increasing then over the long term since Fannie and Freddie have been made? 48% home ownership rates in the 1930's when Fannie was created to the over 60% rate today.

    Sounds like you support the idea of government controls to keep people protected from capitalism.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2014
  9. crashman

    crashman Grumpy old man

    I would like it if the government would stop meddling. :up:

    I believe that there would be short term pain and then it would stabilize at a more realistic level. Current housing prices are driven by the absurd notion that everyone deserves to be a home owner.
     
  10. Falcondrvr

    Falcondrvr Well-Known Member

    :stupid:
     

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