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Thumbnail/Cliff Notes Stoicism to me......

Discussion in 'General' started by DrA5, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. DrA5

    DrA5 The OTHER Great Dane

    I listen to the Art of Manliness podcast. He frequently discusses stoicism. I know about Seneca as one of the leaders of the movement. Ryan Holliday is noted to be an author that puts out a lot of work on the topic.

    To me, stoicism sounds like a "meh" way of approaching life. Don't get emotional, head down, do your work without expecting pats on the back, etc.

    But I think I am misinterpreting it, or at least not thinking of applying it correctly.

    Any insights, thoughts, input??
     
  2. renegade17

    renegade17 Well-Known Member

    meh
     
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  3. rd400racer

    rd400racer Well-Known Member

    Yes, Nihilism is superior to Stoicism.
     
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  4. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

    The virtues of Stoicism are largely lost on this Age of Entitlement.
     
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  5. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    I can't be bothered to waste time going in depth to responding to this. I have work to do.
     
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  6. Sabre699

    Sabre699 Wait...hold my beer.

  7. redtailracing

    redtailracing gone tuna fishin'

    Not sure I see the problem here?
     
  8. tgold

    tgold Well-Known Member

    I have no strong feelings on the subject.
     
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  9. Smilodon

    Smilodon Wannabe

    I think it is a situational thing, or an approach to take, more than a way to live your life every day.

    Also, I see a difference in that you "have" emotions, but choose not to show them, not that you don't have an emotional reaction to things.

    If you have ever had to make funeral arrangements for somebody you care about, for example, you have to "be the grown up" or "man up" or whatever to get through that with a clear head.

    I've seen it carried to the extreme with some relations of the generation or two previous to mine. They missed out on a lot of things in life in my opinion.

    A good mix in that regard is probably Kimi Raikkonen. But, he is more following Finnish Sisu than Stoicism. Similar, but different.

    The whole "expecting a pat on the back" thing that is rampant today is more a low self-esteem thing than anything else. Not that it isn't nice to get one every now and again, but expecting it always is another story.
     
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  10. Rising Sun

    Rising Sun Well-Known Member

    Listen or read ‘The Practicing Stoic’

    It breaks it down and takes away the formal structure. I’m not selling it, just saying this will break it down so you have a basic understanding of what it is.
     
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  11. SethG

    SethG Well-Known Member

    Isn’t it some sort of Ed hardy’ish CrossFit mantra now?
     
  12. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Wait. You mean my Tap Out shirts are a dog whistle?
     
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  13. gixxernaut

    gixxernaut Hold my beer & watch this

    Epicureanism. That's the ticket. The ancient's version of hookers and blow.
     
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  14. Smilodon

    Smilodon Wannabe

    Rather than Sisu, I prefer to follow my Irish roots (such as they are) and practice Sláinte... :timeforabeer:
     
  15. Metalhead

    Metalhead Dong pilot

    That's not even a word.
     
  16. cha0s#242

    cha0s#242 Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand

    Ah yes. Entropy ! Your entire life's purpose is to dissipate atoms into the void.

    [​IMG]

    Thanks for asking :)
     
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  17. tiggen

    tiggen Things are lookin' up.

    Look up Epictetus, Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, and Courage Under Fire by James Stockdale.

    (PS, every time I say Epictetus I can't help but think of Dolly Parton.)

    Edit: also the Book of Job.
     
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  18. iagsxr

    iagsxr Well-Known Member

    I listen to the Everyday Stoic YouTube channel, find some value in it.

    Not like to be emotionless, but to not be as apt to let other people's bullshit effect my inner happiness. Or if I do get triggered to get back to my baseline as soon as possible.
     
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  19. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    You need a podcast to be manly?
     
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  20. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    I like it.... but Annihilationism is the way to go. You only live once.
     
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