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Thoughts on V6HW V7HW class structure

Discussion in 'WERA Vintage' started by Outsider V6 V7, Nov 21, 2019.

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  1. britx303

    britx303 Boomstick Butcher…..

    Nice!! Stickboy has the 18" rubber for the rear if you don't do a 17" swap.Get those bridgestones from him! FZRs dont need much else for vintage racing. Hell......I prefer to leave mine mostly stock and keep it simple stupid. My 1st 2 years I raced it with bone stock suspension and started dipping into 25's at summit,so they are EXCELLENT bikes for guys like us. Make sure you get some FZR transmission testing done before going all the way down to Summit...........we've seen how that goes:D
     
    britx303, Feb 9, 2020
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  2. cyclocrossfool

    cyclocrossfool Well-Known Member

    stickboy? contact info?
     
    cyclocrossfool, Feb 9, 2020
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  3. 2Big4Bike

    2Big4Bike Well-Known Member

    Does this mean you aren't going to run the KZ750?
     
    2Big4Bike, Feb 9, 2020
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  4. Shenanigans

    Shenanigans in Mr.Rogers neighborhood

    @stickboy274
     
    Shenanigans, Feb 9, 2020
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  5. cyclocrossfool

    cyclocrossfool Well-Known Member

    ill bring both.
     
    cyclocrossfool, Feb 9, 2020
    #325
  6. Shenanigans

    Shenanigans in Mr.Rogers neighborhood

    /803 413 0721
     
    Shenanigans, Feb 11, 2020
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  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Vintage 6 Heavyweight
    Pre 1992 Liquid or air cooled 4 cylinders up to 750cc
    Pre 1992 Liquid or air cooled twins up to 1000cc

    Among the eligible V6 Heavy Weight machines are the following: Ducati 851/888 any year; Honda Interceptor VF700/VF750/VFR700/VFR750 and RC30; Kawasaki GPz 750, ZX7/ZXR750/ZX750R through 1992; Suzuki GS700E/ES, GS750E/ES, GSXR750/GSXR750R oil cooled, GSXR750W through 1995 (legal through 2021 and will be reevaluated at that point); Yamaha FZ750, FZR750, FZR750RR. 4 cylinder machines may go up to a 2mm overbore, stroke cannot b changed, Ducati twins can go to 1000cc but must use 851 or 888 crankcase.


    Vintage 7 Heavyweight
    Pre 1996 Unlimited displacement production machines.
    Pre 1996 Factory GP machines up to 500cc.
    RS and TZ 250’s through 1999.

    Aprilia RSV Mille 2000-2003; Ducati 916 and 996 (must use desmo engines, no testrastretta components allowed), Ducati 748 any year (maximum engine capacity of 996cc); Kawasaki ZX7R/ZX7RR L,M,N,P1-P7 models, ZRX1100 and 1200 through 2005 (must remain SS Spec other than any bodwork is allowed), ZX9R B Series 1994-97 (must remain SS Spec); Yamaha YZF750 regardless of year; Suzuki GSX-R750 through 1998; All RC51, TL1000, GSF1200(S), VTR1000F and Z1000 regardless of year (must remain SS spec with the exception of bodywork), All Honda CBR900 regardless of year (1998 engines must remain SS Spec). All V6HW bikes legal through the 2019 season.
     
    Mongo, Feb 11, 2020
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  8. 2Big4Bike

    2Big4Bike Well-Known Member

    So...larger capacity air cooled two valve four cylinders legal for V5 can't bump up to V6HW because of the 750 capacity restriction...(i.e. KZ810/900/1000)???
     
    2Big4Bike, Feb 11, 2020
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  9. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    When is the last time one did?
     
    Mongo, Feb 11, 2020
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  10. Outsider V6 V7

    Outsider V6 V7 Well-Known Member

    I've only seen two bump up in the last 15 years but I doubt anyone would have an issue with it, so my answer would be, bring it. LOL
     
    Outsider V6 V7, Feb 11, 2020
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  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    That's my thinking, it's not remotely an issue but if it were to ever happen we can deal with it then.
     
    Mongo, Feb 11, 2020
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  12. ScottyRock155

    ScottyRock155 A T-Rex going RAWR!

    Thank you for the changes, I truly hope it helps improve vintage turnout. I can not make the Tally round, but I have a bike for the class and I will be out there supporting it in 2020.
     
    ScottyRock155, Feb 11, 2020
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  13. TLR67

    TLR67 Well-Known Member

    17 pages so far....i hope we have at least 17 people combined with V7 and V8 in a few days....see you crusty f;%/rs there....
     
    TLR67, Feb 11, 2020
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  14. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    After all that? :D
     
    Mongo, Feb 11, 2020
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  15. 2Big4Bike

    2Big4Bike Well-Known Member

    Well, I bumped my V5 Kz650 to V6MW in 2018 and 2019 (before a mechanical ended the weekend).

    I have an 810cc kit ready to install as an improvement for this year...but you nuked V6MW which leads to a bump to V6HW but now with the rule change the 810cc kit isn't legal because you included air cooled inline multi cylinder in the 750cc limit.

    That is why I asked about KZ810/900/1000 no longer able to bump from V5 to V6HW...as far as when is the last time someone did...don't know?

    So now I only have one class to run (V5) because air cooled 2 valve in line 4 cylinders have the same capacity limit as the water cooled multis.

    It will still be slow, heavy, and underpowered.:D

    Regards,
    Chad
     
    2Big4Bike, Feb 11, 2020
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  16. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

    Sounds like if you’re the lone wolf (or even a small pack), you’ll be accommodated.

    Of course I have no power (nor does Eboz:D) , but Sean has some influence I think.
     
    RRP, Feb 11, 2020
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  17. 2Big4Bike

    2Big4Bike Well-Known Member

    I guess I'll just have to protest myself...:crackup:
     
    2Big4Bike, Feb 11, 2020
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  18. Outsider V6 V7

    Outsider V6 V7 Well-Known Member

    Just show up and race. it's kind of always been an unwritten rule that if you're bumping up a class, then specifications of the bump up class are not written in stone. Since V5 is not MW or HW then whatever bumps up is legal. If it's 940, 1040 or 1140 bring it. If you beat someone only there pride will be hurt and I'm sure they will get over it. If you remember back to 1983, most of the superbike 1000's of the era were put out to pasture by the 83 750 interceptor.
     
    Outsider V6 V7, Feb 11, 2020
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  19. 2Big4Bike

    2Big4Bike Well-Known Member

    Out to pasture...that's where I belong.:D

    I didn't think anyone would have issue with the kz650/810...especially because I'm slow and no one will show up anyway...but you never know!

    I just wanted to see if having the air cooled bikes with the same displacement as the liquid cooled ones was an over sight or not.

    Regards,
    Chad
     
    2Big4Bike, Feb 11, 2020
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  20. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

    It’s their, crab ass...


    :D
     
    RRP, Feb 11, 2020
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