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Thoughts from pilots...

Discussion in 'General' started by tl1098, Apr 17, 2020.

  1. tl1098

    tl1098 Well-Known Member

  2. baconologist

    baconologist Well-Known Member

    Only restriction I know of over water is to stay 500ft away from stuff. Reads like he either wanted to or ran out of talent at the apex..
     
  3. tl1098

    tl1098 Well-Known Member

    Would it have been a violation to fly under that Tampa bridge?
     
  4. baconologist

    baconologist Well-Known Member

    With a required 500’ bubble and only 180’ of clearance. I’d go with yes
     
  5. speedluvn

    speedluvn Man card Issuer

    Isn’t there restrictions of where and how high you should be when performing aerobatic maneuvers?
     
  6. baconologist

    baconologist Well-Known Member

    There are over ground, and people can get clearance to the surface. I’m not sure over water.
     
  7. speedluvn

    speedluvn Man card Issuer

    I wasn’t sure with the over water part either.
     
  8. Resident Plarp

    Resident Plarp drittsekkmanufacturing.com

    Over water, you can do whatever you want, with regard to minimum altitude, except go supersonic (unless you’re far away from land).

    This gentleman failed to maintain situational awareness and/or altitude in order avoid terrain. Or, in this case, water.
     
  9. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

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  10. SteveThompson

    SteveThompson Banned by amafan

    It was a sea plane.
     
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  11. speedluvn

    speedluvn Man card Issuer

    Does that change anything?
     
  12. Photo

    Photo Well-Known Member

    § 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
    Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

    (a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.

    (b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.

    (c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
     
  13. SteveThompson

    SteveThompson Banned by amafan

    The FAA doesn't generally get wound up about a sea plane being near the water.
     
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  14. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    1) As dude had a history of abusing meds in his immediate past, he probably lied about it on his medical exam and should not have been granted an airman medical.
    2) He sure as Eff shouldnt have been flying with that many painkillers/amphetamines in his system...regardless.
    3) You can fly under a bridge if needed to land a seaplane. Many of you would be shocked by how little the FAA/Feds regulate airplane operations. But they did put in a clause we all call 91.13. thats the section that says they can fry you if you operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner. So to put it in motorcycle terms...you can do all the standup high chair wheelies you want away from people and stuff...but if you eff up and crash we can still cite you.
     
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  15. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    Halladay ran out of brains and talent long before he ran out of balls. He paid the price for that.
     
  16. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

  17. Photo

    Photo Well-Known Member


    Or........ it ain't a problem till its a problem!
     
  18. motoracer1100

    motoracer1100 Well-Known Member

    This smells like a suicide . Drug levels 10 x normal.
    Other than that , that Icon 5a is a Bad Ass little plane
     
  19. SteveThompson

    SteveThompson Banned by amafan

    I, personally, think Icon has some responsibility in this. I have spent almost a decade within 100 feet of their sales and marketing team. They promoted themselves as a PWC for the sky. They put no effort that I could see towards safe operation of their airplane. It was all about fun and excitement.
     
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  20. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    want to expand on this a bit more? Examples?
     

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