The Whole "Novice"/"Expert" Discussion

Not to get on anyone's bad side here on either hand (ya know, the complainers vs the sandbaggers). Anyway, but shouldn't you want the competition to make you better. We all know that a name or label means nothing..there are "Novices" that are faster than "Experts" and "Experts" that are faster than "Novices". If everyone was equal in racing, how would you determine a winner...everyone would cross the finish line at the same time. Just because a few guys that are faster move up to "Expert" class doesn't mean that some green shirt won't come along and smoke a 2nd or 3rd year "Novice". Get FASTER!! thats about all you can do if you're in it for the monaey instead of the fun. On the other hand if your lapping everyone on the track twice!! Get out and move up!! You guys that are like that need some competition to and how do you think you're gonna feel when you didn't move up and some green shirt kicks your butt when you thought you were the King of the "Novices"? When it comes down to it...Can't we all just RACE? Later guys...and rock on!

 

I like the idea of just racing and not worrying about anyone else. I know it was posted elsewhere by someone who explained why they petitioned to stay novice and it made sense. Each racer has their own unique situation that we may not fully understand.

Personally I find myself riding my worst when I'm thinking about the guy in front of me or other stuff I think is wrong. When I put all that out of my mind and focus only on myself, I ride much better. Let's not worry about who should be expert and who should be novice, but rather let's worry about the quickest way around the guy in front of us.

The WERA staff has obviously been doing something right for this organization to exist and prosper as long as it has, so let them make the rules that we race by and if there's something you don't like, speak directly to someone at WERA and voice your concerns. They won't know you're upset about something unless you tell them!

(stepping off soapbox and climbing back under rock)

 

I believe that their is a defenite problem, but you guys are right as well. I didn't really have a great past season because it was my first, but, I would hate to see the guys that ran up front come back because our field is already packed, and they were fast.

If anyone should be getting bitched at, it's ourselves. If the sandbagger is in front, why wasn't I in second show'n him the front tire. Or better yet, why wasn't he staring at my exhaust pipe. Let's just save the BBS space and time and go racin, it's almost thawed out at Putnam

 

This is a relative to bench racing. Better known as bench griping. None of us in the south have anything better to do now until Roebling in 5 weeks.

I agree we beat this to death. Nothing left to do but for everyone to get faster and tighten up the novice competition.

Somebody gripe about something else.

 

Buy some Fritos and beer for next week's vintage event at Roebling and you'll be more than welcome. Did I mention the barbeque?

 

I second what Diesel said, go to the Vitnage event at Roebling even if you can't race it. It's usually a grea time and good racing and you can all learn something by spectating or helping out by corner working.

Now what's this about a BBQ?

 

Awwww, gotta get the bike back into one piece from Taladega...
Would like to go. Thinking about getting into vintage (its more my speed ;+)

 

BEER and a BBQ???? WHERE?

 

hmmm...what kinda beer??

 

Maybe if I quit spending so much money on beer I could afford the extras I need for racing.

Now if I could only find a bike that runs on beer I could save lots of money!

I'm sure Diesel is in his garage right now tinkering with his new masterpiece. The Frito-Beer Bike!

 

I sure am! The problem is, as soon as I get the thing close to working, I eat it. *burrrrrrrp*

 

BTW - According to "Track Times" there will be a barbeque on Thursday evening (March 2 - the day of practice). Then a full day of vintage racing on Friday March 3rd.

 

Can't wait for a cold beer and a big juciy BBQ sandwich with cheese please.

 

I'd love to go to Roebling for BBQ and Beer, but I wasted 7 hours of driving time going to Talladega last weekend. Mr. Tech man sent me home without even starting the bike for not having billet case covers. Something about oil and pavement. I guess my frame protectors and solid mount footpegs weren't to his liking. I promise they would have protected the cases in a crash. It would have been nice to get a one time warning like the belly pan violators. I don't think anyone cared that one less 600 novice was on the grid though.

Good luck to everyone at the vintage race. You guys are the backbone of roadracing.

 

Sorry to hear about the covers... It definitely sucks to not be able to race but the solid pegs and the sliders would have helped but they would not have done the same job as the case guards. With that rule it's been in palce so long there are no longer any exceptions (although we have allowed some pretty interesting version of case guards - JB weld, screws from the back side and some thick steel work wonders for a very temporary fix). I wish we could always allow everyone on the track but on the other hand I'm glad to hear the tech guys were doing their jobs.

 

I just double checked the rules but wanted to consult the HMFIC Wannabe to be safe before I go driving all over the southeast to race. Case guards are not required for Honda 600's, right?

 

I thought Case Guards were supposed to be on all bikes unless the fairings covered the case. Is this right or wrong SEAN?

 

Case Guards are only required on the machines listed in the rulebook (Chapter 8,d - page 28 in oyur 2000 Rulebook). This list does nto include the Honda's (they don't stick out far enough to cause problems).

 

Come on guys!!! Help me get the post set on fire!! BEER, BEER, BEER, BEER, BBQ, BEER, BEER, BBQ, BBQ, BEER, BEER....zzzzzzZZZZZZZ(nap)

 

Thanks Sean, I just wanted to make double sure. I thought that was the case (no pun intended) but I'm so anal I can't help myself.

As far as setting this place on fire, beer won't do the trick. You'll need a detonator, some type of accelerant, um...wait... I forgot my lawyer said I'm not allowed to talk to anyone about that stuff any more.