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The official cycle jam roll call

Discussion in 'General' started by Metalhead, May 26, 2014.

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  1. dickie doo

    dickie doo Well-Known Member

    Can we talk about the 6 row gap that someone thought was a good idea in the "larger" grids?

    Seems like the old WERA and other orgs never needed to gap out the grids, so why now? I understand safety is always a concern, but if I was that worried about pileups in turn 1, I'd run track days.

    Seems unreasonable to separate out a class with 6 bike lengths between competitors from the drop of the flag.
     
    dickie doo, Jun 9, 2014
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  2. Crybaby™

    Crybaby™ Well-Known Member

    In my experience it really doesn't matter that much. The front row of the 2nd section is usually on the back tire of the last row of the 1st section by turn 1 anyways. Maybe it prevents people in the 2nd group from being able to pass before turn 1, but you get by eventually if you are faster.

    Now 2 waves for the same class is a bit annoying, but I've benefited from that more than I've been hurt by that.
     
    Crybaby™, Jun 9, 2014
    #242
  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Sure, Evelyne did it and with the size of those grids our normal procedure is a wave. However we gave the experts the benefit of the doubt this time and put in the gap to keep you closer to the people in the other group than a wave would be while still keeping you all from hitting T1 ten wide.

    A wave would have had you more than 6 rows behind off the grid no matter how quick Glen could do them since a wave necessitates at least a 3 row gap anyway.
     
    Mongo, Jun 9, 2014
    #243
  4. dickie doo

    dickie doo Well-Known Member

    Ok, that helps. I wasn't aware that you've ever separated the classes like that in the past, and other (older) experts apparently haven't seen it. I figured I'd ask since I'm new to the class.

    I will tell you that it makes it tough as hell to catch the folks in the front with the same or slightly quicker lap times. Especially at Road A with that damn chicane. :crackup:
     
    dickie doo, Jun 9, 2014
    #244
  5. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Like I put on FB, old school crowds lead to old school problems....

    We used to have enough Novices they'd have 3 waves of just them in C Production at the bigger events. Also used to start row 1 further back towards 12 so the back of the back would be up the hill and holding their brakes on so they wouldn't roll and jump :D (old 12 setup).
     
    Mongo, Jun 9, 2014
    #245
  6. dickie doo

    dickie doo Well-Known Member

    I get it. Thanks for discussing it, and congrats on a huge weekend. :up:
     
    dickie doo, Jun 9, 2014
    #246
  7. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member


    Front tires last a long time when you have 20hp on the rest of the field. LOLOLOL
     
    Boman Forklift, Jun 9, 2014
    #247
  8. Waterboy

    Waterboy Rain Man

    Glad to help!


     
    Waterboy, Jun 9, 2014
    #248
  9. RM Racing

    RM Racing Tool user

    I didn't see a single T1 start collision resulting in off-track adventure, but I didn't see all the starts. Were there any?
     
    RM Racing, Jun 9, 2014
    #249
  10. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Not that I know of. I know we had some of the normal bumping in T2-3 but that's more a function of the chicane being clunky and faster rider with no points however everyone did great as far as I know.
     
    Mongo, Jun 9, 2014
    #250
  11. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    I liked it... of course I get decent launches :D:FL:
     
    TurboBlew, Jun 9, 2014
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  12. RM Racing

    RM Racing Tool user

    Grids apparently worked okay. The two wave start flagging was also really quick and gave racers in the second wave a good chance to ride forward. Keep doing this, please.
     
    RM Racing, Jun 9, 2014
    #252
  13. benprobst

    benprobst Well-Known Member

    Tire was working great, 36s on a LW bike, the Michelin slick fronts are astounding in their consistency and longevity.
     
    benprobst, Jun 9, 2014
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  14. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    We try to keep it consistent. Helps having great people who understand why we do things the way we do too, the starter gets why we're going for safe through one but also understand the riders wanting to stay competitive.
     
    Mongo, Jun 9, 2014
    #254
  15. benprobst

    benprobst Well-Known Member

    Yep!
     
    benprobst, Jun 9, 2014
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  16. benprobst

    benprobst Well-Known Member

    However, they also tend to last a little less long when you weigh 260lbs and are 6'6.
     
    benprobst, Jun 9, 2014
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  17. Mechdziner714

    Mechdziner714 More Gas Less Brakes

    How awesome was that bathroom situation with No AC or lights? I hope Wera gets their money back on that rental cost.
     
    Mechdziner714, Jun 9, 2014
    #257
  18. slimjim00

    slimjim00 Well-Known Member

    I *think* one guy went down going into T1 in the Sunday DSS/LWT SB race, but there were a bunch of novices in the back fighting for that one spot. He slid out of the way pretty quickly/safely
     
    slimjim00, Jun 9, 2014
    #258
  19. dickie doo

    dickie doo Well-Known Member

    What does that even mean? Why would we/WERA expect money back for a bathroom not having lights or AC?

    All the facilities I used had lights, but the block buildings around the infield have never had AC.
     
    dickie doo, Jun 9, 2014
    #259
  20. Mechdziner714

    Mechdziner714 More Gas Less Brakes

    The portable unit they put in for this event had no power, it sucked.
     
    Mechdziner714, Jun 9, 2014
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