Sooo does that mean you're not donating again?

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Handicapped Racer, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. Handicapped Racer

    Handicapped Racer Well-Known Member

  2. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    If they are illegal, they shouldn't have been hired. Too bad. No telling how much they may have made in labor savings.
     
  3. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    more important will this make unemployment #s go up or down?? :D
     
  4. Wheeliest

    Wheeliest ʍɥǝǝןıǝsʇ

  5. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    My wife worked in a chicken processing plant near Athens, GA when she was working her way through UGA. Her story of taking applications from people for the Chicken Catcher position is freakin hilarious.
     
  6. beac83

    beac83 Well-Known Member

    It's insane that the US has no meaningful sanctions against employers for hiring ineligible workers.
     
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  7. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    I’m glad for it. I hope they clean up all these illegally operated corporations. If the little guy has to adhere, the big ones should have to, as well.
     
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  8. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds


    Yes it is. We go after the people who are here illegally (at least we make a half-hearted attempt) and we spend hundreds of millions running around in circles at the border, but we do virtually nothing to the companies and individuals hiring these people. There are Cargill plants in the small town west of here that employ illegals almost exclusively. They're terrible jobs butchering and processing turkeys and nobody wants to work them, so everyone turns a blind eye to it. You even have the IRS actively encouraging illegal immigrants to use false information to file taxes, yet ICE doesn't attempt to use that info to track and deport these people and punish the people hiring them. And don't, for a second, think the employers aren't helping the illegals with the falsification of documents. I had a very in-depth discussion on facebook with a lady that ran HR for a big restaurant chain that really opened my eyes.
     
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  9. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    It’s all over, unfortunately. It’s every agricultural, food service, manual labor, shitty job industry, anywhere in the world.

    What’s truly unfortunate is so many of the illegal tradespeople are incredibly talented, yet, don’t take the steps to get legit. To lose their talents really is a setback for the building trades, as there’s already a major shortage.

    My employer will hire about any immigrant, so long as they’re legit and not a felon. Immigrants are about the only people willing to work. We have many doing $50K-$60K+.
     
  10. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

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  11. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    I feel like this is one of the major screw ups by republicans. There's this stigma that Mexican immigrants are going to be some sort of democrat horde who will turn red states blue if they're allowed to be here legally and "officially" vote. I don't think that's the case. Most probably have core beliefs that align with the right (they're catholic, work hard, don't want the government telling them what to do), but instead of embracing them, they've been demonized. And the dems don't give two shits about ever making life better for them or actually making them citizens. They want them to be second class - slaves if you will, always dependent on handouts to get by, so they'll vote dem.

    With unemployment as low as it is, pretty much anyone who wants a job can get one. Millions of decent jobs are going unfilled right now because there just aren't people applying for them (cue tangent on too many idiots going to college who shouldn't but do because it's "free", and tangent on lots of people who are unemployed or under-employed because the jobs they should be working require drug tests).

    I'd be all for an accelerated, inexpensive (even free) path to citizenship for everyone who didn't have a major criminal record, especially if they were willing to enter into government service (military or job corps). I'd much rather know how many there are and where the are than have millions roaming around totally undocumented, uninsured, unlicensed (driving), with virtually no way to keep criminal records on them.
     
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  12. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

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  13. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    Completely agree.

    Immigrants are what create the diverse cultures I’ve enjoyed around our country. There are a lot of good people in these groups.
     
  14. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab

    Average Americans once did all these jobs, I
    refuse to buy the "Americans won't do this work"
    bullshit. It's used to justify paying less than the job
    should pay by hiring desperate people who can't
    legally work here because they are illegal.
    It's just a modern form of slavery.
     
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  15. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    If DJT is willingly to give convicted criminals a second chance, I feel like these illegals who are working their asses off and sustaining life should get a chance, as well.
     
  16. Wheeliest

    Wheeliest ʍɥǝǝןıǝsʇ

    They're provided a 2nd chance, they're eligible to get a visa in 3 years after they've been deported.
     
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  17. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab

    Immigrants aren't the problem, we have a legal
    immigration system that allows roughly a million
    new people a year to come here, the lion's share
    coming from Mexico.
    The people who refused to follow the rules and get
    in line with everyone else and instead jumped the fence
    and cut line should never be rewarded for breaking the law.

    I don't know any conservative who has a problem with legal
    Mexican immigrants, who do tend to be conservative and
    against illegal immigration.
    It is those coming to break the law who will support
    Democrats, the party of lawlessness.
     
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  18. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    They give the fake info. IRS is not Immigration. They've publicly stated that they don't care what SSN/Tax ID you use, as long as you use one.
     
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  19. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab

    What about the people they pushed aside to get here illegally,
    do they get any of your sympathy?
     
  20. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    First off, what device are you using to post? Your stuff is always really narrow.


    But to answer your question, no, Americans WON'T do a lot of this work. At least not for the wages the various companies are willing to pay. And as long as they have this slave labor in the form of illegals that have no real voice, it'll remain that way.
     

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