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Roundup and Cancer

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by ryoung57, May 15, 2019.

  1. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

  2. Turbotech

    Turbotech Well-Known Member

    Agent orange v2.0
     
  3. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Exactly the same type my father had. Also exposed to this stuff for years farming.
     
  4. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    No where did they prove the cause effect relationship...it's all circumstantial. This award will lose once it gets out of San Francisco. NHL is quite common, about 4% of all cancer.
     
  5. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    I heard the EPA said the opposite of the UN
     
  6. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I finally figured out what buzzword they used to get Johnson and Johnson to lose the stanky vagina lawsuits - asbestos. Somewhere down the line J&J evidently discovered asbestos in talcum powder and didn't tell anyone but did switch mines for its baby powder talc - but that's all it takes is a buzzword that people think is evil. No true proof powder causes cancer any more than roundup but juries don't care. For Round-Up all it takes is suing Monsanto, the root of all evil everywhere.
     
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  7. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    The only question I have is which greedy idiot at Bayer green lit the Monsanto buyout. It must not be comfortable being him right now. Monsanto is going down, and taking Bayer with it.
     
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  8. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Yeah, once the settlements started to get announced and every lawyer and then some started advertising for any type of cancer sufferer who had even been in a garden center near a jug of round-up I figured Monsanto was screwed.
     
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  9. Champer

    Champer Well-Known Member

    I had somebody arguing with me that glyphosate is the reason I have Celiac disease - and if I would just stop eating wheat treated with it I would suddenly get better.

    Doesn't work like that but I sure as hell wish it did!
     
  10. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I'm still loving the people freaking out over GMO's. Wondering when bees will be sued or any horticulturist who has ever grafted any plant...
     
  11. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Anecdotal I know, but I have heard of people who don't noticeably react to Italian made pastas, ostensibly due to different farming methods.
     
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  12. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Can I sue Jimmy Carter for my eldest's peanut allergy? :p
     
  13. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    I don't have proof of anything, but since watching a fairly extensive investigative report a few years ago on the shit going on in Argentina (not this documentary, but it's on the same topic), I can tell you that Monsanto does not want me sitting on a jury. :D
     
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  14. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Different farming methods or different strains of wheat being used?
     
  15. Champer

    Champer Well-Known Member

    I have heard that - though I have also gotten sick while in the UK getting accidental exposure...sooooooooo dunno. Won't find me testing the theory though!

    There is a study/trial about to start at the Mayo for a medicine to block the reaction - I thought about signing up, but the trial was 14 weeks long, and I had to eat bread every night and log my reaction after taking the medication. I could also be placed on the placebo and it would be the 14 most agonizing weeks of my life.

    BUT - if the medicine turns out to work, it would be worth it long term. I'm torn.
     
  16. Champer

    Champer Well-Known Member

    Strains of wheat from what I understand
     
  17. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I'd be more pissed at the farmers and the government than the company they buy the chemicals from.
     
  18. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    I include crop variations in farming methods. Strains, cross breeds, soil and fertilizing, pesticide and herbicide application...any and/or all the variables.
     
  19. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Be nice if there was something like an epi pen to kill the reaction, but I can't see going back to the good ol' days of whole wheat and white bread. Cora snuck a donut at school and suffered the GI consequences for it, great lesson but I would like to be able to stop the reaction if she gets accidentally dosed.
     
  20. Champer

    Champer Well-Known Member

    Yep that's the theory - not a daily thing but more reactionary. I don't want to throw away my summer, so if there is still something come November I may just take one for the team and sign up.
     

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