NJ Carry Regulations remain the law

Supreme Court declines to take the case.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/05/us-usa-court-guns-idUSBREA440EP20140505

so... States can still regulate at least this far without Federal interference.

 

Cowards

 

When we transitioned from a democracy to an oligarchy, the Supreme Court went up for sale like cheap china at a yard sale. It is pretty obvious that they now serve the political interests of their corporate masters, not the interest of a free citizenry.

 

It's amusing, in some ways, but still troubling to see our highest courts and leaders continuing to dance around the problem of why people wish to be armed at all times. Criminals will be armed regardless of the law stating otherwise. and they do not always cause trouble for an individual at home. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that?

 

Because the types of people that believe in gun control are the types that believe in this impossible utopia where there are absolutely no g,uns for anyone, legal or criminal, and therefore, no violence. They do it with everything - social programs, education, finances, etc. They're completely detached from the realities of life.

 

I read a great line by the editor of Recoil Magazine (one of the few I read.) He said to the effect, if you think gun registration will have any impact on crime try this; write down the make, model and serial number of your favorite AR and then mail it to a friend across town. Then ask that friend to use the information to prevent you from committing a crime with that gun.

 

Wait, so you want the Federal government controlling state regulation?

 

The Editor of Recoil Magazine should shut up. Registering of guns is not designed to prevent crime. Rather, it is designed to create a chain of accountability when a stolen, borrowed, or illegally sold weapon is used in a crime.

I dont support registration or any new gun laws but "experts" like Recoil boy saying stupid shit does not help me as a gun owner one bit.

 

this is about the Constitution.

 

They aim to turn everyone into criminals when it comes to guns, then they can justify confiscation.

 

Depends how you define "control" I guess. Do I want the Fed to slap states on the pee-pee for not following the U.S. Constitution? Certainly. I wouldn't call it control, but some clearly defined guidance would be nice.

I get the feeling the SCOTUS is waiting for just the right case and then they will visit the matter. Maybe this latest one wasn't it, for whatever reason.

 

You can repeat this all you want; it's still not going to make it true and it's a very short sighted view.

 

Yeah, that's what it's for. Accountability. Keep telling yourself that. Recoil boy also is a British ex pat who lived through the registration and subsequent confiscation of all his firearms by his own government.

By the way your second paragraph contradicts your first.

 

I am fully aware that registration would be used for confiscation, that is why I wont ever support it. However, the editor makes an empty point. Registration has never been sold as a way of "preventing you from committing a crime", to quote the post. It has been sold as I described, as a way to track weapons and provide additional accountability on gun owners. He makes a point that does not actually address the risk or benefit the argument in any way.

He should focus his soundbites on the real risk of registration to the 2nd amendment, not his made up one. Inaccurate arguments from someone who is considered an authority don't benefit the cause.

 

You are delusional. Do you recall that nice letter the CT State Police had drafted concerning the destruction or confiscation of assault weapons held by people who missed the registration deadline?

http://www.rightwingnews.com/uncategorized/confirmed-gun-confiscation-has-begun-in-connecticut/

 

You are arguing a point I already agreed upon. I dont see much point in me just typing the same thing again but I appreciate you engaging in conversation. :up:

 

What do you believe the motivation was behind the registration efforts given the recent events at Sandy Hook? This is the perfect example. A registration effort driven by a public safety concern that ultimately led to shades of confiscation until people got called on the carpet. Forget it, you really are too simple to have a complex discussion with sans black and white points.

 

Your biting condescension gives me a sad and makes me reconsider my value as a human being. Have a great weekend Dutch.

 

I think you two guys should have a shootout, drawing from the hip like Wyatt would.

 

A windmilling slap fight would be more entertaining.