man i never thought of that. thx for the info! Zarco is currently a much more finished product, but i feel Rins was born to ride a big bike. Give him a little time He's the real thing. Not quite Maverick-level talent, but that's not fair. Also has a long history of over-riding rather inferior machinery. I'm sure the m1 is a very happy place for him, even in its current state of tune. Will be interesting to track his progress as both he and the Factory bikes develop.