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MotoAmerica / Road America 2020 Round 2

Discussion in 'General' started by grasshopper, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I was even nice and refrained from mentioning the extra 10% in displacement the new one has over the other SS machines :D
     
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  2. turbulence

    turbulence Well-Known Member


    except the racing version (and the street version.. v4r) doesn’t have 10% extra displacement.

    it’s a 998cc four cylinder bike
     
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  3. turbulence

    turbulence Well-Known Member


    and i’d say that shit is stupid too.
     
  4. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    He isn't going because he will make more chasing contingency at a club race. They were not planning on going before the last weekend's results. Last year Mesa got 2nd in the Championship, what do they have to show for it except a lighter checkbook? Heck even the champ is without a seat this year.

    I know I have mentioned it before, but Mesa is bringing it to those guys and he's there with his Mom and Dad, they don't even bring a mechanic this year.

    And of course, I'm team Kaleb FTW in Twins. The guy works incredibly hard-a real pro.
     
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  5. 2blueYam

    2blueYam Track Day Addict

    Summit Point just posted up a video with an interview with him at the CCS races this weekend. Seemed to be in good spirits.
     
  6. V8R

    V8R Member

    So one race
    so one race constitutes a valid data set? On the longest fastest track in the series. It’s a bullshit call to appease a bunch of cry babies. One win at one track hardly constitutes dominance.
     
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  7. turbulence

    turbulence Well-Known Member

    i’m still waiting for someone to tell
    me why PJ’s bike got penalized but Cams won’t.
     
  8. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    I already told you, different classes. SBK allows more mods to even things out. Rightly or wrongly stock classes have tweaks built in for weight and RPM to try and make a better show.

    I agree one race seems pretty quick to make a change. I also think PJ would be winning that class on a Kawi too.
     
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  9. turbulence

    turbulence Well-Known Member

    so then do you agree or disagree with WSBK penalizing bautistas bike last year?
     
  10. turbulence

    turbulence Well-Known Member

    and it’s funny that the “stock” class has to make a bike slower to even things out.

    what happened to run what you brung?
     
  11. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    I don’t think they should have in WSBK.
     
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  12. Suzuka_joe

    Suzuka_joe Well-Known Member

  13. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    Good on them.
     
  14. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    Wow, does PJ really only weigh about about 108lbs?

    IMO the BIG BUDGET superior team with the world class 108lb rider will still win against mom and pop teams.

    If they don’t like the weight penalty, put on the BIG BOY pants and race in SBK like the other big budget teams with high level riders.
     
  15. Henrybgood2

    Henrybgood2 Well-Known Member

    All this talk over the Stock 1000 class. Your right, why don't they just race Superbike. Clearly with PJ they are competitive and they wouldn't have to bother about the implications of having an over price-capped bike in the Stock class.
     
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  16. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    Obviously they really want to buy a championship, one that IMO they shouldn’t even be proud of winning based on their team size and budget.
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2020
  17. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Not sure about 108 pounds but he's damn sure Pedrosa size
     
  18. turbulence

    turbulence Well-Known Member


    oh come on. you still have to show up and ride the damn thing.

    you could throw me on a motogp bike with HRC monies in the jr cup class and i’m still not cracking the top 10.

    the funny thing about super STOCK class is there is a limit to the amount of modifications, so having an unlimited budget is only going to get you so far with a race bike build. this isn’t the unobtanium superbikes of old.
     
  19. turbulence

    turbulence Well-Known Member

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  20. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    I did the math wrong. It really is a whooping 110.5lbs, PJ would only weigh, if the whining HSBK did about the penalty being nearly 20% of the riders weight, is true.
     
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