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MotoAmerica | Pittsburgh | AUG 07 - 09

Discussion in 'General' started by RossK6, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. Hoffman900

    Hoffman900 Well-Known Member

    I think this is all just speculation and the answer is "who knows".

    Toni smoked Josh last year and lest we forget, Toni lost the championship in the last race of the season. Though he lost it before that when performance really seemed to degrade around Pitt last year. NJMP and Barber were a bit sad to watch for him. His performance may be degrading some due to age, but age doesn't cause the bike to be in a "controlled" tank slapper on the run from the kink to Canada Corner at RAm every lap. Yosh threw everything but the kitchen sink at the bike at the end of last year and it sounds like M4 is doing the same, with talk of several shock changes at races this year. I know some on here claim differently, but the two riders plus RH and others in the know said they really only had 1 dry test on those bikes besides the wet test at Barber before the season started, so there really wasn't any development during the offseason, and what was, was abbreviated compared to Attack / ME Yamaha.

    Josh has been under the Stanboli umbrella to some degree, other than Yosh and this year, since he got back into MA after the Moto2 debacle. Stanboli was building the bikes for Meen (with Meen wanting to use their electronics), then Richard made him shine on the house SBK. Josh choked a bit again with Yosh and this year he is fully out on his own, though they seem to be making strides with that bike.
     
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  2. jksoft

    jksoft Well-Known Member

    The last couple of laps when he lost the most time we noticed his binge didn't sound right coming out of turn 2 either.
     
  3. drop

    drop Well-Known Member

    Ya I wouldn't necessarily call 3 days at tally in the dry a true test. That track is its own animal and unlike anything they will really race on. They did learn a couple things but nothing major during their midweek test there. (Not this last week, but a few prior).
     
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  4. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    But lack of testing is the teams own fault...
    Toni lives in California so he had the chance to ride just like the monster guys, why didn't m4 have bikes ready to test before the lock down and send one to California?
     
  5. Senna

    Senna Well-Known Member

    What’s up with Live+? Supersport Race 2 is still not up for me.
     
  6. drop

    drop Well-Known Member

    The acquisition wasn't the easiest..
     
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  7. Shocker

    Shocker Well-Known Member

    It was weird, I had to go into the Stock1000 Race 2 and then look at the related videos on the bottom of the page to find it.
     
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  8. 83BSA

    83BSA Well-Known Member

    The difference between Dylan and Floyd is that Dylan is a professional that takes his job seriously. Floyd is simply a hack that thinks he can show up, talk and that will be sufficient. It isn't. Hanna would do a far superior job - she knows and studies riders and teams and is involved. Whoever placed Floyd needs to unplace him . . . fast. He is simply bad. Roger by himself would be far better - even if he spoke to himself in the third person.

    Josh had an almost great ride. With the exception of the hairball move that put him in the grass, it was inspired. Hell, surviving the grass excursion was impressive, but completely unnecessary. They have been working nonstop with that bike, and it appears that they are on the cusp of something really good. Josh gives them feedback and they start changing stuff - it doesn't matter what it is, they're on it. And that is a nonstop effort. It is good to see it paying off.

    Another good weekend for Westby. Good to see.

    A tough ride for Kyle. That bike really looks loose. No doubt he's riding the wheels off it, but . . . . I wonder if getting it to hookup would make it appear more stable and planted?

    Cheers,

    Dave
     
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  9. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Acquisition as in they are the same bikes from last year and Yoshimura wouldn't give them up?
     
  10. drop

    drop Well-Known Member

    Data...
     
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  11. Joe Remi

    Joe Remi Well-Known Member

    Herrin flailing around at Wyman and giving the position back in the process was hilarious.
     
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  12. Hoffman900

    Hoffman900 Well-Known Member

    Herrin mentioned he and Kyle have a "history"... what happened in the past did I miss?
     
  13. Joe Remi

    Joe Remi Well-Known Member

    I only know about last week on Instagram. Kyle had said something about "I shouldn't have even been back there with those guys" in one of last weekend's races, then someone mentioned that to Josh. He didn't appreciate it!
     
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  14. Senna

    Senna Well-Known Member

    Nevermind - they have a whole 'nother string for Pittsburgh Day 2. Didn't see it at first. :whoosh:
     
  15. Shocker

    Shocker Well-Known Member

    I don't know what went on between the two of them, but Kyle gave Josh the finger during the warmup today for crusing on the race line. Then I saw this screen cap pop up on the BrotoGP facebook group. I dont know if Josh or MA deleted his comment from their Instagram post, but I cant seem to find it now.

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  16. Senna

    Senna Well-Known Member

    Wow.
     
  17. sbk1198

    sbk1198 Well-Known Member

    Well Josh shouldn't be that far back with those guys either.
     
  18. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    Should be at the back.
     
  19. The Beer Hunter

    The Beer Hunter Well-Known Member

    I like Josh and Wyman but this is case and point part of why someone of Herrins talent level doesnt have a factory ride.
     
  20. henry_carlson

    henry_carlson BREAD_RACING

    BRUH
     
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